Council meeting
City CouncilApr 9, 2026
- Started
- 6:00 pm
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- 140 days after the meeting
- Items on the agenda
- 14
Highlights
- Friction
Resident says the city isn't enforcing its street-basketball-hoop ban near where kids were hit by a car
Outcome: No council response or referral recorded; public comment closed and the meeting moved on
0:01:57 — open the recording, cued to 1 minute 57 seconds - Unverified item. Flagged · Unverified
Mayor warns a 2028 state tax change could double-tax residents — city is exploring a workaround
Outcome: No vote taken; the mayor plans to ask council to appoint two members to a joint task force
0:30:35 — open the recording, cued to 30 minutes 35 seconds - Unverified item. Flagged · Unverified
Council rezones two North 12th Street lots from residential to business use
Outcome: Passed on a voice vote
0:37:45 — open the recording, cued to 37 minutes 45 seconds - Unverified item. Flagged · Unverified
Redevelopment Commission's 2025 report: downtown hotel TIF area spent $46,494 more than it collected
Outcome: Report received as a statutory disclosure; no council vote required
0:28:22 — open the recording, cued to 28 minutes 22 seconds - Unverified item. Flagged · Unverified
City spends about $47,500 to keep the homeless warming center open 37 nights this winter
Outcome: Passed on a voice vote
0:43:29 — open the recording, cued to 43 minutes 29 seconds
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0:00:30 — open the recording at 30 secondsSpeaker 2 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for
0:00:39 — open the recording at 39 seconds which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.
0:00:57 — open the recording at 57 secondsSpeaker 6 Michelle, will you please call the roll?
0:01:06 — open the recording at 1 minute 6 secondsSpeaker 9 Councilperson Councilperson Azar Here Councilperson Boland Here Councilperson Chalos Present Councilperson DeMond Here Councilperson Dingle Present Councilperson Hinton Present Councilperson Loudermilk Present Councilperson Nation Councilperson Thompson Here Eight are present, one is absent
0:01:25 — open the recording at 1 minute 25 secondsSpeaker 0 Thank you. Councilperson Nation informed me that he was unable to make it due to a personal emergency. At this time, we reserve up to 30 minutes of time for public comment on items not on the agenda.
0:01:40 — open the recording at 1 minute 40 secondsSpeaker 15 We have a sign-up sheet, and we had nobody sign up, but if there's anybody in the public who wishes to comment on a non-agenda item, please step forward and state your name. Please limit your comments to three minutes and address your comments towards the council.
0:01:55 — open the recording at 1 minute 55 secondsSpeaker 19 Hearing none, we'll close public comment. Go ahead.
0:01:58 — open the recording at 1 minute 58 secondsSpeaker 20 Hello. My name is Douglas Hollingsworth. I live here in Terre Haute, 2505 South 11th and a Half Street.
0:02:05 — open the recording at 2 minutes 5 secondsSpeaker 22 And I would like to talk about an ordinance. It's a no basketball in the street ordinance. And I don't want to be the basketball Nazi, but where I live, the other guys have a court set right up in the street. And it's one block away from where those children got hit by the car and ran over. by the ambulance depot. And, you know, I know it's an ordinance because I've looked it up and I had the numbers, but now when I look it up, it just states what it is.
0:02:36 — open the recording at 2 minutes 36 secondsSpeaker 23 But the Terre Haute City Code Enforcement, I think, they're the ones that are supposed to deal with it. They just haven't.
0:02:43 — open the recording at 2 minutes 43 secondsSpeaker 22 And it's not just where I live. On the way here, I've seen three basketball goals set up in the street. And cars are doing 30, 40 miles per hour. And I was wondering if there's anything we can actually do to get code enforcement or the police, I don't know exactly who deals with that, to get that enforced.
0:03:04 — open the recording at 3 minutes 4 secondsSpeaker 15 Thank you. Anyone else would like to make public comment on non-agenda items? Okay. This time we'll have a presentation from the Terre Haute Womash Valley Alumni Chapter.
0:03:24 — open the recording at 3 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 28 Good evening. Good evening, President Dinkle and council members, as well as members of the Terre Haute City, particularly our friend Michelle Edwards. We all set?
0:03:40 — open the recording at 3 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 29 All right.
0:03:43 — open the recording at 3 minutes 43 secondsSpeaker 30 Bottom left.
0:03:48 — open the recording at 3 minutes 48 seconds I know it works for me.
0:03:49 — open the recording at 3 minutes 49 secondsSpeaker 30 Well, I moved it on presentation mode. Presentation.
0:03:57 — open the recording at 3 minutes 57 seconds Oh, there it is.
0:03:59 — open the recording at 3 minutes 59 secondsSpeaker 29 All right. Thank you, and good evening.
0:04:03 — open the recording at 4 minutes 3 secondsSpeaker 35 This is our, my name is Mary Howard Hamilton. I'm president of the Terre Haute Wabash Valley Alumni Chapter of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated. Again, good evening, President Dinkle, members of the city council, and also individuals in the gallery. Tonight, we have a joint presentation with our national co-partner, the League of Women Voters. Dr. Carly Schmidt is here also with me, who will be presenting just a few brief words about voting and a few other important items. Again, this is our second annual Delta Day at the City Council.
0:04:40 — open the recording at 4 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 35 And what we're here today, tonight, is to talk a little bit, share a little bit about some of the issues concerning individuals in the Terre Haute community, as well as also to say a few thank yous as well to you all. Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated was founded in 1913. And 113 years later, we were founded, of course, by 22 women at Howard University. 113 years later, we have over 350,000 members and over 1,000 chapters. So we're quite an international worldwide organization. Tonight we're focusing on issues related to political awareness and involvement.
0:05:22 — open the recording at 5 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 35 Last month, there were several key issues presented at our 37th annual Delta Days at the nation's capital, where we had several thousand deltas in red and white and in red, descending upon our nation's capital to talk to our representatives about issues in our state, as well as issues in our community. First, again, though, we want to say, before we get into that, we want to say a thank you to the members of the City Council. Before that, though, let me just pause real quickly.
0:05:59 — open the recording at 5 minutes 59 secondsSpeaker 35 Delta Sigma Theta, in our community, the Terre Haute-Wabash Valley Alumni Chapter of Delta Sigma Theta is very actively engaged. We will be having our annual pancake breakfast. I'll say a little bit more about that in just a couple of minutes. You all, the city council members, have been gifted one ticket to attend the breakfast. And if you cannot attend, we would really like for you to pass it on and to give it to someone else who would love to be there. With the pancake breakfast, the money is used for our scholarships.
0:06:31 — open the recording at 6 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 35 And one of the other things that we've been engaged in in the community, we have our annual backpack giveaway. We always thank Councilwoman Boland as well as Councilwoman Hinton, who are both actively engaged with that effort in August.
0:06:47 — open the recording at 6 minutes 47 secondsSpeaker 29 Another thing we also had this year, which was very, very successful, which was our clothing drive to the Lotus Center.
0:06:54 — open the recording at 6 minutes 54 secondsSpeaker 35 And also, last but not least, this annual event, which is the Delta Day at the City Council. We had our 37th annual Delta Day at the Nation's Capitol. We had several issues that were presented, and one of the things that we talked about this year had a lot to do with what's impacting our community in Terre Haute. Before we again get to those issues, we want to also say a thank you to you all, a thank you to the city council members. We want to say thank you to you all for listening to the committee members and to the individuals in Terre Haute.
0:07:35 — open the recording at 7 minutes 35 secondsSpeaker 35 We've been concerned about a number of things in the Terre Haute community. You have listened to us, our desire to have stronger infrastructure, sidewalks, street repavement, snow removal. You've been very engaged with the food pantries. We want to thank you for that. We also want to thank you, of course, for the bundles of hope. We want to thank you for, of course, new houses being built in the community, warming centers, and overall you've been actively engaged with the community. You've been listening to us and we appreciate that immeasurably.
0:08:13 — open the recording at 8 minutes 13 secondsSpeaker 35 We also want to make sure that as you're listening to the community, some of the challenges that we have seen, new buildings, of course, new companies moving into the community, we want to also make sure that there is an opportunity for us to talk and be always aware of tax abatements, that tax abatements are, you know, they're positive for the community in terms of bringing money in. However, we want to make sure that major companies, that they contribute more to the community by offering us positions and jobs and that when we have an opportunity to come and speak with you about buildings,
0:09:00 — open the recording at 9 minutesSpeaker 35 neighborhoods that may change based upon their houses and apartments being built in our neighborhoods, that you continue to listen. Thank you again for the new bus shelters, free bus rides, and we also want to also thank the Human Relations Commission for their stellar work that they've been doing in the city. Thanks to AT Ryan and her appointment, we've noticed that there have been a lot of amazing diversity programs that have been added to our community. Your visibility also at ribbon cuttings and other ceremonies in your respective districts, we've been noticing and we've seen you there.
0:09:45 — open the recording at 9 minutes 45 secondsSpeaker 35 So this leads us to some of the things that we want you to continue to be supportive of. One of our primary concerns with everyone in our community has to be environmental justice. You've heard us talking about CO2, AI, undrinkable water, data centers. The Indiana Black Legislative Caucus, they have contacted a number of us in the community, and they're encouraging us to attend the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission listening session that will be held here on April 22nd from 6 to 8 p.m.
0:10:27 — open the recording at 10 minutes 27 secondsSpeaker 35 It's a listening session because we do know that when these data centers are constructed, it does impact also – it impacts tremendously minoritized populations and those of low socioeconomic status. Utility bills in the state have risen about 17.5 percent in a single year already. I've seen it in my utility bill.
0:10:53 — open the recording at 10 minutes 53 secondsSpeaker 29 And we already know that we've got pollution in our community. We already have undrinkable water.
0:10:59 — open the recording at 10 minutes 59 secondsSpeaker 35 But there's also one other thing that gets added to these data centers, and that is also noise pollution. 365 days a year, 24 hours a day. We really want to make sure that we all listen carefully to the concerns that are going to be presented to the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission and that you continue to talk to the folks, continue to do your homework on AI and the data centers, and we know you will. We would like to also be actively involved in the Neighborhood Investment Grant Program in any way that we can.
0:11:36 — open the recording at 11 minutes 36 secondsSpeaker 29 If we can help you with reading grants or grant writing workshops, marketing the grants to underrepresented groups, we're here to be supportive. One other thing that we'd like to talk about, and that has to do with the picture on the lower right-hand side of the slide, economic justice. The power of the black dollar is approximately $2 trillion in consumer buying power. During the bus boycott in Birmingham, riders placed 381 days of sustained economic pressure on bus companies. And I always like to say how we got through that.
0:12:19 — open the recording at 12 minutes 19 secondsSpeaker 29 Neighborhood individuals came and picked up folks on the street, took them to work. And I always like to tell folks that we were the original Ubers. Because we did that in the 1960s. Stopped, picked up our people, and got them to work. Well, the reason why I'm saying this is because our economic impact is being felt also with companies such as such as American Airlines and Target because of their practices and policies that impact minoritized individuals in our communities. So we encourage you to bring these businesses into our community. However, let's keep them
0:12:56 — open the recording at 12 minutes 56 secondsSpeaker 29 accountable for fair hiring practices, equitable wages, and meaningful diversity practices. Don't forget the two trillion dollars in consumer buying power, particularly by minoritized individuals. With this, I'm I'm going to pass it on now to my colleague, Dr. Carly Schmidt, who will be representing the League of Women Voters.
0:13:19 — open the recording at 13 minutes 19 secondsSpeaker 43 Thank you. It's always hard to come after Mary. So I'm Carly Schmidt, co-president of the League of Women Voters of Vigo County. I've had the pleasure, I believe, in moderating your candidate forums, for which I believe you are all up for re-election next year. And we will welcome you all to our candidate forums next spring. But I'm going to talk about the work of our league. Our league is a nonpartisan grassroots organization, and we were really founded by the third wave of women, the third generation of women, who fought for women to have access to the ballot
0:13:57 — open the recording at 13 minutes 57 secondsSpeaker 43 and who eventually led to the passage of the 19th Amendment. And so our real focus is grassroots, focusing on promoting and protecting and expanding voting rights and access. And so we do that through, we see ourselves as empowering voters and defending democracy through our advocacy, through education, and through litigation. Here locally, we do a tremendous amount of work with our voter access. And so we have started really sort of tracking this. We have a great team of voter services.
0:14:30 — open the recording at 14 minutes 30 secondsSpeaker 43 And so in the past, just in this primary, for example, we visited high schools, community events, senior housing centers, and had over 200 folks who checked their voter registration, changed their registration, or were new voter registration. A lot of high school students were very excited to be able to vote. And so we've been tracking this, and we really have a large impact. You can see that in the past couple of years, we have nearly 3,000 voter contacts, and that's just simply through basic of our simple sort of tracking.
0:15:08 — open the recording at 15 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 43 We, of course, host a number of events with our candidate forums, but we will be at tons and tons of events moving forward as we gear up for the general election. Right now, we're focused on Vote411.org. All of you as candidates have the opportunity to fill out when you were running for office, and we've provided that opportunity for all candidates right now. It's still open, so if there happen to be candidates in the room who want to continue to fill out that information, but to provide some information to voters to help them make better educated decisions on Election Day.
0:15:45 — open the recording at 15 minutes 45 secondsSpeaker 43 We are working with the local alumni chapter right now and thinking about perhaps having a community conversation on data centers. We know that in Sullivan County, a rather large project emerged, and the public didn't have the opportunity to do anything other to respond to the actions of their government. And so we would like to sort of be at the forefront in particular because it came up in the candidate forms that the commissioners do have a couple of places in the county that they have identified as places that would be welcome for data centers.
0:16:22 — open the recording at 16 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 43 And so we want to kind of get ahead of that and bring in various folks. So look for that, and we're going to invite you all. And we will continue with our community voter registration and education. Mayor Sackman has been very generous in working to partner with us. And then we will also have National Voter Registration Day, and we'll be back here with a resolution celebrating that and encouraging our community to vote. And then coming up, we will have our fall primary candidate forums.
0:16:50 — open the recording at 16 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 43 Our candidate forums, because we had so many candidates running for office this year, we had over 100 people attending our candidate forums this spring, and hundreds more streaming through YouTube.
0:17:05 — open the recording at 17 minutes 5 secondsSpeaker 44 So we are delighted. We've had wonderful partners, and we are delighted to continue our work in engaging, educating, and activating our local community. So thank you. Mary?
0:17:16 — open the recording at 17 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 29 So last but not least, just want to make sure that you all are aware that you have a ticket to our pancake breakfast.
0:17:30 — open the recording at 17 minutes 30 secondsSpeaker 35 Money goes towards the scholarships, and we will be presenting our scholarship winners at the pancake breakfast. But to just go ahead and give you an advance preview, this year our winners are Brooklyn Williams. She is a junior at Indiana State University. She is a nursing major. And at West Vigo High School, Eva Salinas, she won our scholarship this year. She plans to attend a four-year university majoring in paralegal studies with a goal of becoming a law student and lawyer.
0:18:06 — open the recording at 18 minutes 6 secondsSpeaker 35 So we really do hope that you attend our breakfast, celebrate with us our scholarship recipients, and we thank you for listening to us this evening.
0:18:15 — open the recording at 18 minutes 15 secondsSpeaker 48 Thank you.
0:18:15 — open the recording at 18 minutes 15 secondsSpeaker 47 Thank you.
0:18:19 — open the recording at 18 minutes 19 secondsSpeaker 16 Thank you. Next, we have a presentation by the Redevelopment Commission.
0:18:30 — open the recording at 18 minutes 30 secondsSpeaker 51 Yes, Councilperson Hinton.
0:18:33 — open the recording at 18 minutes 33 secondsSpeaker 52 Just wanted to add on behalf of Delta Sigma Theta that we recognize that the mayor,
0:18:41 — open the recording at 18 minutes 41 secondsSpeaker 54 Most of the initiatives that Mary mentioned were also initiatives of the mayor. So, Mayor, we thank you also on behalf of Delta Sigma Theta.
0:18:57 — open the recording at 18 minutes 57 secondsSpeaker 56 Hi, President Dinkel and fellow members of the council. I'm Jordan Marvell. I'm the executive director of the Department of Redevelopment. I'm here tonight with Jason Simler to present the Redevelopment Commission's April 15th report.
0:19:11 — open the recording at 19 minutes 11 secondsSpeaker 62 Thank you, Jordan. This is Jordan Seddon, Jason Simlow with Baker Tilly, I'm the financial advisor for the Redevelopment Commission. And I believe in front of you, you have a PowerPoint presentation that we had prepared. If you remember, I was here about this time last year. The Redevelopment Commission is required every year to submit information, financial information about the Redevelopment Commission and stiff areas on Gateway. very similar to what the council has to do for the city's finances like the annual financial report.
0:19:44 — open the recording at 19 minutes 44 secondsSpeaker 62 They have to submit this information by April 15th, and they've had to do that for a number of years now. But the statute was changed last year that that information also needs to be presented to the council for April 15th. So that's why I'm here tonight is to meet that statutory requirement. So I put together kind of in a PowerPoint slide the information that they were filing on Gateway. I'll kind of go through the information and if you have any questions, I'd be happy to address those at any time. But before I went through the information, I just wanted to hit some highlights on TIF
0:20:18 — open the recording at 20 minutes 18 secondsSpeaker 62 areas and I've been in front of the council many times talking about various projects that you guys have approved as far as either new TIF areas or financing. But page two, just again wanted to highlight the very basics of tax increment financing. If you look at this chart here, I kind of call this my TIF 101 chart. The box below the gray area, that is what we call the base area, the base assessed value. So as you know, and we'll go through the TIF areas here in a minute, when you create a TIF area, you designate certain parcels where you think there's going to be future development,
0:20:55 — open the recording at 20 minutes 55 secondsSpeaker 62 and you create a new allocation area or TIF area. All the assessed value that is currently there, all the taxes that are currently being generated, those are not touched. Those are not captured by the city or the Redevelopment Commission. Those continue to be flowed through to help fund the budget of the city and the school and overlapping taxing units. So in many cases, we're not taking any revenue from any overlapping taxing units. And again, that's what we call the base. The blue area, the turquoise area,
0:21:24 — open the recording at 21 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 62 that's the new development that we're anticipating that's going to occur. That is what is captured by the Redevelopment Commission. And the taxes generated from that new development is what's captured to either provide incentives or fund infrastructure, like New Margaret Avenue, like improvements to the police station, like the multimodal station, or provide incentives to Deming or ICON. So that's, and what the goal is, is to capture that revenue, put it back in the area, let it grow, and then once the area ends, you have all this new assessed value
0:21:59 — open the recording at 21 minutes 59 secondsSpeaker 62 that gets added to the tax base to help reduce tax rates for this county, for the city, for the school and the library. So that's kind of the goal of the Redevelopment Commission, is to grow the tax base, both property taxes and income tax, so there's future growth for the city. The next page just put a couple of different purposes of TIF. Again, provide incentives or infrastructure, which you guys have done a very good job of over the years. Encourage economic development growth. State Road 46 is a prime example of using TIF out in that area. Help blighted areas.
0:22:42 — open the recording at 22 minutes 42 secondsSpeaker 62 And again, just the key note down out there, I always like to remind people, most people don't realize whether they're going to a TIF area or not. You're going to pay the same amount of taxes. It's just a matter of where the money goes. So starting on page four, this is where some of the information that is required to be reported. Again, what we're reporting is basically all 2025 information. So it's kind of looking at a historical look back. So page four is just the members of the Redmont Commission from last year. You can see the names and the titles listed there.
0:23:16 — open the recording at 23 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 62 The next page, we do list each TIF area. We list kind of the actual legal name, the TIF code. That's really the code that's pretty auditor's office, how the auditor's office identifies the TIF areas. Any nicknames or how we refer to them. But the important dates for us and the Redont Commission and yourselves is the established date and the expiration date. So you can see when each area or expansion area was created and then also when they expire. So you can see you have a couple areas, the Industrial Park and Jadcor expiring in 2033.
0:24:01 — open the recording at 24 minutes 1 secondSpeaker 62 So it seems like that's far out there in the future, but that will be here before you know it. So it is true, Teferi's do expire and they do end. So these will end here in a few years. And then once they end, as I showed in that graph, all that assessed value we add to the tax base to help reduce tax rates. But we list them all here. And you can see even the most recent one that you just created last year, or the two, the downtown area and the Tierra Vista are listed as well. The next page just reports the revenues that were received for each area.
0:24:45 — open the recording at 24 minutes 45 secondsSpeaker 62 and the expenditures. So those are just listed here. The majority of the revenues are the tax increment that's being collected. The only two is a downtown hotel and a new market there at the bottom. You can see there's some pretty large numbers, 5.8 million, 7.5, and that was because we did issue bonds, if you remember last year. So we included that in the revenues. and the expenditures you can see on the right side. And then below, we've kind of broken out those expenditures. Up top, it's broken out for allocation area. Down below, it's broken out for classification or category.
0:25:26 — open the recording at 25 minutes 26 secondsSpeaker 62 And you can see most of the expenditures that you incurred in 2025 had to do with paying back principal and interest on the bonds that you have outstanding. The next page lists all the account balances that you have. As you can see, you have quite a few accounts related to the various TIF areas, but if you read through the fund names, a lot of them are related to the bonds that you have outstanding. So again, just reporting what the ending balances were at the end of the year. And in the next page, we're also required to list any bonds that you have outstanding. So you can see the list here.
0:26:15 — open the recording at 26 minutes 15 secondsSpeaker 62 We've listed the amount of principal and interest that's outstanding as of January 1. We've also listed the principal and interest that was paid as of 2025 and then when the bonds are anticipated to mature. So you can see, you know, most of the areas kind of list on the printsees what the project were for, but the first one, the 2011 Series A, that was for the Cherry Street multimodal facility. The 2015, that was a bond issue that we provided an incentive to the Deming Project downtown. The 2015 Series A, that was for initial costs related towards the
0:26:54 — open the recording at 26 minutes 54 secondsSpeaker 62 police station renovation. And then I think the rest of them have the kind of the names of the bonds beside them. The only two that I would mention that I think are kind of unique, if you look at the footnote one and two, you can see if you read the footnotes, those were two, again, we provided incentives to the developers. The tax increment came in less than anticipated based upon the projections that we were giving. But in both of those, we structured it so if If TIF did come in less than anticipated, the developer would have to cover the shortfall.
0:27:34 — open the recording at 27 minutes 34 secondsSpeaker 62 So just as we talk about bonds, we do everything we can to protect the city, that we either issue bonds where we have sufficient enough coverage that if something were to happen, like legislation where we think that might decrease our taxes going forward, we have enough cushion there to cover anything like that. So we're not going to be short, or we have the developer guarantee the bonds. and that was the case for those two areas. Again, by doing this presentation,
0:28:08 — open the recording at 28 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 60 we can check that box off of one more thing we're required to do. I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have.
0:28:21 — open the recording at 28 minutes 21 secondsSpeaker 64 Council President Bollard.
0:28:22 — open the recording at 28 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 66 I just have one question. On the members page it says redevelopment members. None were removed and redevelopment has no employees. And then on the expenditures, it has an expenditure for employees. I just don't understand. I'm sure.
0:28:40 — open the recording at 28 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 60 Yeah, the redevelopment commission itself doesn't have any employees, but Jordan's office has employees, and we do use some to help pay for some of the kind of salaries for certain salaries for certain projects. We're able to use TIF for
0:28:57 — open the recording at 28 minutes 57 secondsSpeaker 62 capital projects, and if we can identify that some of the employees are specifically being used for those projects, we're able to allocate some of that for those projects to help the city.
0:29:10 — open the recording at 29 minutes 10 secondsSpeaker 73 Good question.
0:29:15 — open the recording at 29 minutes 15 secondsSpeaker 75 Council President Hinton.
0:29:20 — open the recording at 29 minutes 20 secondsSpeaker 79 You have to talk to me like a two-year-old
0:29:22 — open the recording at 29 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 54 year old here. The CBD TIF have expenditures greater than the revenues and I'm looking at the footnote at the bottom. I'm wondering if the debt service is also part of that equation and that's where the 46, 494 difference is.
0:29:43 — open the recording at 29 minutes 43 secondsSpeaker 60 Yes. And that was intended, that was for the bond issue for the downtown hotel project.
0:29:50 — open the recording at 29 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 62 And we anticipated that a large portion of the TIF from the downtown area would be used to pay off those bonds. Because the hotel hasn't been built yet. We're waiting for that. Once that gets built, we'll start collecting revenue from that. But to try to make it as efficient as possible, we wanted to use some TIF from the downtown area. as you can see on the next page there's still a very healthy balance in that area even after the payment of those bonds. So that's why it shows up that way. Thank you.
0:30:23 — open the recording at 30 minutes 23 secondsSpeaker 86 That's really helpful.
0:30:27 — open the recording at 30 minutes 27 secondsSpeaker 88 Thank you Jason. Thank you.
0:30:32 — open the recording at 30 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 16 Corrections to the general of the preceding meetings. There are none. Communication from the mayor.
0:30:35 — open the recording at 30 minutes 35 secondsSpeaker 95 good evening council president dingle and members of the terahode city council a couple of quick things our target goal for the restrooms at the parks is friday i know there's been some online chatter there we had to do some renovations to a couple and we're adding four restrooms that used to not be open that will be open so our goal is friday for most of those and then I believe Sheridan, Voorhees, and Hertz Rose. The target date is mid-May 2026, and then they'll be open through about October 15th. Kylie's going to put all this information together and put it on social media
0:31:13 — open the recording at 31 minutes 13 secondsSpeaker 95 Friday on the parks page so everyone can see that. So I wanted to address that first. Secondly, AT&I and Jesse, we've all been at work with the county council next Tuesday. I will actually not be there. I presented this week. Jesse will be there. We have the firefighter award ceremony. But we are going in for $15,001 for the Warming Center conversation, and we look forward to that passing. We do see a potential avenue with some state conversations of maybe looking at some alternative ways to address the homelessness problem.
0:31:47 — open the recording at 31 minutes 47 secondsSpeaker 95 So you'll see more information in the coming weeks about that homelessness task force, what that will evolve to. A big reason why I bring that up is Senator Good has been very helpful in voicing the concerns of Senate and Rold Act 279, which criminalizes homelessness. Even though we got the amendments in to make it better, our kind of focus right now is, well, maybe if you gave us the tools to address this, we actually wouldn't get to the end solution. So we're going to potentially use that argument next legislative session, so the 2027 session, because that's the budget session.
0:32:24 — open the recording at 32 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 95 That's the big one that's always long, drawn out, and very frustrating. Second thing I want to talk about, House Enrolled Act, HEA 1017, was like the cleanup Senate Enrollment Act 1 bill. Cheryl, I know you and I have chatted at length, or Councilman Loudermook, I know you and I have talked at length about this. in this state bill, it allows us to create a must, not like, oh man, you got a shower must, like municipal unit service tax thing. I don't even know what the acronym stands for. Here's the bottom line. The must takes your townships, your county, your city, puts them
0:33:04 — open the recording at 33 minutes 4 secondsSpeaker 95 in a room and says, okay, under the current income tax structure, going up to 2.9 is your total cap. how would you guys play in the same sandbox and develop an income tax structure where the county would collect all of it and then disperse it out to each unit? Why would we like that, right? So if that is an option, which is honestly pretty much what we are already doing, that is more appealing because under the current language in Senate Enrollment Act 1 from now, about two years ago, in 2028, the city, the county would pass an income tax. The current income tax
0:33:45 — open the recording at 33 minutes 45 secondsSpeaker 95 would go away, and then the county would have the ability to add one for a fire territory, one for a library. But at the end of the day, much like our wheel tax circle discussion, our city residents would literally be double or triple taxed, right? So the must, which we owe the state a report by, I believe, December 31st. Is Jason still here? Oh, no, he went on the road. It might be December this year. If not, it's October. So I'll follow up with that. I just looked at it. Is it October? I think it's December. December? I think it's December 1st.
0:34:15 — open the recording at 34 minutes 15 secondsSpeaker 95 That report that counties and cities and townships would submit is to drive legislation to address the double taxation problem this legislative session. Long story short, in these reports, it is non-binding. So basically, a current city or county council can say, we agree that the lit rate should be 2%, which is actually what it is today. And we believe that the city should get a PS lit portion, an edit portion, and the county should get their portions. And imagine everything staying the same. But future county councils could amend that. So it's literally a non-binding report,
0:34:57 — open the recording at 34 minutes 57 secondsSpeaker 95 but what it does do is it forces your units of government to say, what if we approach this problem as a team overall and solve it locally so that way the state doesn't have to solve it for us? I will be sending you an email probably early next week, an overview of the must, what the breakup up of that committee or task force would be. And we'll be looking for two city council members to work with the full-time staff on that. County auditors also involved. County council members are involved. And then of course, you know, we call all the entities that are currently receiving
0:35:31 — open the recording at 35 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 95 some income tax dollars. I know income taxes are being talked about a lot online right now because this school conversation dominates everyone's social media feed. The harsh reality is for as much as certain members like to make videos and do video updates, if we don't understand the true impacts and changes to state legislation tied to income taxes and how they actually create an opportunity for the current Vigo County resident to pay less or pay the same and not see additional taxes, then we can't even have that conversation.
0:36:06 — open the recording at 36 minutes 6 secondsSpeaker 95 And I stress this to our conversations with our friends at the county is if everything we do and talk about turns into some long winded debate, then we're missing the point. The wheel tax has finally been addressed and we don't do double taxation anymore. That is our same goal with income tax. And like these are really, really interesting problems because I know that I love tax policy, but this is like a true opportunity to avoid some of the tax rates that have crept up over the last decade across the state of Indiana because your tax caps have been in place.
0:36:41 — open the recording at 36 minutes 41 secondsSpeaker 95 Long-winded way of saying I'm going to send this all in an email early next week and we're going to get going on those conversations. Lastly, make sure to check out Fried Chicken Night at the Saratoga. I know that's always a hit. Councilman Azar, I see you there.
0:36:56 — open the recording at 36 minutes 56 secondsSpeaker 93 I'll stand by for any questions, and if not, we'll carry on the agenda.
0:37:01 — open the recording at 37 minutes 1 secondSpeaker 76 Councilperson DeBong.
0:37:02 — open the recording at 37 minutes 2 secondsSpeaker 106 Is the fried chicken good at Saratoga?
0:37:06 — open the recording at 37 minutes 6 secondsSpeaker 109 Dumb question. I mean, you know. You're right.
0:37:09 — open the recording at 37 minutes 9 secondsSpeaker 110 I withdraw that question.
0:37:11 — open the recording at 37 minutes 11 secondsSpeaker 109 I need to get the votes tonight, so it's amazing. No, I'm kidding. All right.
0:37:16 — open the recording at 37 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 112 Thank you, guys. Thank you, Mayor.
0:37:19 — open the recording at 37 minutes 19 secondsSpeaker 111 It's not as good as the desserts.
0:37:20 — open the recording at 37 minutes 20 secondsSpeaker 113 Reports from city officials.
0:37:25 — open the recording at 37 minutes 25 secondsSpeaker 111 There are none.
0:37:26 — open the recording at 37 minutes 26 secondsSpeaker 15 Reports from Board of Public Works and Safety.
0:37:28 — open the recording at 37 minutes 28 secondsSpeaker 115 There are none.
0:37:29 — open the recording at 37 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 15 Reports from standing committees.
0:37:30 — open the recording at 37 minutes 30 secondsSpeaker 115 There are none.
0:37:31 — open the recording at 37 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 15 Reports from non-standing committees. There are none. Items previously tabled. There are none. Tax abatements for confirmation.
0:37:37 — open the recording at 37 minutes 37 secondsSpeaker 116 There are none. Items on second reading.
0:37:39 — open the recording at 37 minutes 39 secondsSpeaker 9 Special Ordinance 3, 2026, rezoning a property located at 3317 North 12th Street.
0:37:45 — open the recording at 37 minutes 45 secondsSpeaker 117 Area planning gave it favorable with conditions of recommendation. It should be before you on your table.
0:37:50 — open the recording at 37 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 120 Petitioner. Good evening, Mr. President, fellow members of the council. My name is Richard Shagley.
0:37:56 — open the recording at 37 minutes 56 secondsSpeaker 122 I'm with the law firm of Wright Shagley and Lowry, and tonight it's my honor to be here on behalf of Rick Lazor, who's the owner of the property at 1205 Fort Harrison Road, as well as 3317 North 12th Street. Mr. Lazor, these properties are currently zoned R1. Mr. Lazor is asking them to be rezoned C2 for business and professional offices. It's his intention to transfer the properties, and the new owner would like to invest in a building that would allow for business offices. The area plan staff gave it a fair recommendation.
0:38:31 — open the recording at 38 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 122 Last night, the area plan meeting, it went through rather smoothly with no opposition. No opposition at the meeting, and no opposition had contacted my office or the area plan office.
0:38:45 — open the recording at 38 minutes 45 secondsSpeaker 124 I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
0:38:48 — open the recording at 38 minutes 48 secondsSpeaker 16 Does everyone from the public who wishes to comment on Special Ordinance 3-2026? Hearing none, we'll close. Public comment?
0:38:57 — open the recording at 38 minutes 57 secondsSpeaker 126 Council discussion? Councilperson Thompson.
0:39:02 — open the recording at 39 minutes 2 secondsSpeaker 130 Richard, some of the photographs that we had last night at area planning gave a better aerial, I think, of showing the current makeup of that area. If you could just describe what currently resides in the properties surrounding this.
0:39:19 — open the recording at 39 minutes 19 secondsSpeaker 120 Let me look at just because I get my directions kind of funky up there.
0:39:30 — open the recording at 39 minutes 30 secondsSpeaker 122 You have obviously Fort Harrison Road, which is a heavy commercial area. Across the street on 13th, you have a health clinic. There is a residential house behind this property, but these are two rather large lots, and with
0:39:50 — open the recording at 39 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 137 the C1 there will be some requirements of that site plan recommendation by the area plan office.
0:39:57 — open the recording at 39 minutes 57 secondsSpeaker 122 And the potential owner of this property is well aware of the requirements. And then to the south, you have a piece of property owned by the sanitary district, and then you have a ditch and then some more sanitary.
0:40:16 — open the recording at 40 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 120 So it's kind of an isolated area. Like I said, there is one residential property abutting it, but as you are aware, there are several requirements when there is a C1 next to an R1, which the potential to have to comply with.
0:40:33 — open the recording at 40 minutes 33 secondsSpeaker 137 I hope that answered your question. It did. Thank you. Okay.
0:40:39 — open the recording at 40 minutes 39 secondsSpeaker 122 I believe last night Amanda was against my presentation on the history of rezonings in
0:40:44 — open the recording at 40 minutes 44 secondsSpeaker 120 this area because there's a light agenda. I'd be happy to offer the same to you this evening. Mr. President.
0:40:51 — open the recording at 40 minutes 51 secondsSpeaker 151 If there's no any further, I move that we approve special ordinance 3-226.
0:40:57 — open the recording at 40 minutes 57 secondsSpeaker 0 Thank you.
0:40:58 — open the recording at 40 minutes 58 secondsSpeaker 154 Second.
0:40:59 — open the recording at 40 minutes 59 secondsSpeaker 0 So moved by Councilperson Chalo, seconded by Councilperson DeBond, that special ordinance 3-2026 be approved. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say nay.
0:41:08 — open the recording at 41 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 157 The motion passes. Special ordinance 3-2026 is adopted. Thank you very much.
0:41:12 — open the recording at 41 minutes 12 secondsSpeaker 158 I just didn't want to hear your other presentation. I got to remember that.
0:41:16 — open the recording at 41 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 157 That's a good trick.
0:41:18 — open the recording at 41 minutes 18 secondsSpeaker 167 Next item.
0:41:18 — open the recording at 41 minutes 18 secondsSpeaker 14 Appropriation 5-2026, $1,000 from General Fund 0101000 to Civic Promotions 0101001503439186. You must vote to take action. Petitioner.
0:41:32 — open the recording at 41 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 171 Good evening, President Dinkle, members of the City Council, A.T. Ryan, Director of the Human Relations Commission. This request is to appropriate $1,000 from revenue into our Civic Promotions line. These are grant funds that we received from Duke Energy to support the MLK Day of Service we held this past January. Specifically, it was for event supplies. At this event, our volunteers assembled 250 backpacks for individuals experiencing homelessness, and of course these funds helped support that. We applied for this grant back in January, but funds weren't released until March 1,
0:42:08 — open the recording at 42 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 171 and then we had to submit the appropriation paperwork, which is why it's in front of you in April. But I'm happy to answer any questions.
0:42:17 — open the recording at 42 minutes 17 secondsSpeaker 0 Is there anyone from the public who wishes to comment on Appropriation 5-2026? Hearing none, we'll close public comment
0:42:24 — open the recording at 42 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 19 open for council discussion.
0:42:32 — open the recording at 42 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 180 Mr. President.
0:42:33 — open the recording at 42 minutes 33 secondsSpeaker 16 Councilperson Loudermilk.
0:42:34 — open the recording at 42 minutes 34 secondsSpeaker 181 I'll make a motion that we take action
0:42:36 — open the recording at 42 minutes 36 secondsSpeaker 0 on Appropriation 5-2026. Second. It's been moved by Councilperson Loudermilk, seconded by Councilperson Chalos, that we take action on Appropriation 5-2026. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say nay. Motion passes. We may now take action on Appropriation 5-2026. Mr. President. Councilperson Loudermilk. I'd like to make a motion that we approve Appropriation 5-2026. Second. It's been moved by Councilperson Loudermilk, seconded by Councilperson Chalos that Appropriation 5-2026 be approved.
0:43:06 — open the recording at 43 minutes 6 secondsSpeaker 157 All those in favor say aye. Aye. The opposed say nay. The motion passes. Appropriation 5-2026 is adopted. Thank you.
0:43:14 — open the recording at 43 minutes 14 secondsSpeaker 9 Next item. Appropriation 6-2026, $2,500 from other governmental 04040096
0:43:22 — open the recording at 43 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 14 to services contractual 04040096 0343010. You must vote to take action.
0:43:29 — open the recording at 43 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 171 Petitioner. Good evening, President Ingle, members of the City Council, AT Ryan, Human Relations Commission Director. This request is to appropriate $2,500 to service as contractual. This is also grant funding from Duke Energy, but in support of our warming center operations. And what would be a public meeting these days without at least three mentions of warming centers? So we, as you know, had an extremely cold winter and the warming center was essential, providing respite for many of our neighbors experiencing homelessness.
0:44:01 — open the recording at 44 minutes 1 secondSpeaker 171 I believe the mayor gave a little update, but I would love to just share a little bit more. If you watched or attended the county council meeting on Tuesday, you saw that the mayor returned to them with our request for now $15,001. dollar. And I just wanted to share some quick figures so you all could see how this $2,500, that $15,000, and then another chunk we've applied. So we opened for a total of 37 days this year. And for each day that the warming center was opened, the city has paid the operator, Mental Health America, at the Lotus Center, $1,200 for each day. So we've spent $44,400
0:44:41 — open the recording at 44 minutes 41 secondsSpeaker 171 in total with a total budget including this $2,500 we're asking to appropriate the $15,001 from the county and $30,000 from the city adding up to $47,500. We do have a little bit remaining. We don't think that we will see any more cold days this year but we will put that aside for operations beginning this fall when it will get cold again. So again we applied for this grant and January, but funds weren't released until March 1, which is why I'm here in April.
0:45:16 — open the recording at 45 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 176 So happy to answer any questions.
0:45:19 — open the recording at 45 minutes 19 secondsSpeaker 0 Is there anyone from the public who wishes to comment on Appropriation 6-2026? Hearing none, we'll close public comment, open council discussion.
0:45:28 — open the recording at 45 minutes 28 secondsSpeaker 196 Mr. President.
0:45:30 — open the recording at 45 minutes 30 secondsSpeaker 19 Councilperson Hinton.
0:45:31 — open the recording at 45 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 196 I move to take action on Appropriation 6-2026. Second.
0:45:35 — open the recording at 45 minutes 35 secondsSpeaker 16 It's been moved by Councilperson Hinton, seconded by Councilperson Loudermoke, that we take action on Appropriation 6-2026.
0:45:43 — open the recording at 45 minutes 43 secondsSpeaker 0 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say nay.
0:45:48 — open the recording at 45 minutes 48 secondsSpeaker 202 Okay, the motion passes. We may now take action on Appropriation 6-2026.
0:45:52 — open the recording at 45 minutes 52 secondsSpeaker 205 Mr. President. Councilperson Hinton. I move that we adopt or pass and approve Appropriation 6-2026. Second.
0:45:59 — open the recording at 45 minutes 59 secondsSpeaker 16 It's been moved by Councilperson Hinton, seconded by Councilperson Boland, that Appropriation 6-2026 be approved.
0:46:09 — open the recording at 46 minutes 9 secondsSpeaker 157 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say nay. Motion passes. Appropriation 6-2026 is adopted.
0:46:16 — open the recording at 46 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 215 Thank you, and thank you to Duke Energy as well. Thank you. Thank you.
0:46:20 — open the recording at 46 minutes 20 secondsSpeaker 157 Next item.
0:46:20 — open the recording at 46 minutes 20 secondsSpeaker 216 Resolution 8-2026, transfer of $2,800 in the Clerk's Document Perpetuation Fund, number 03260026.
0:46:31 — open the recording at 46 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 14 Are you the petitioner? Unfortunately. Just, you know all of the projects we've been doing in my office, which my people are extremely excited about, and it seems like the invoices never end. So I need to move a little bit of money to cover some additional invoices that came in this year. But we're very grateful for everything that was able to be accomplished.
0:46:56 — open the recording at 46 minutes 56 secondsSpeaker 16 Is there anyone from the public who wishes to comment on Resolution 8-2026? Hearing none, we will close public comment, open council discussion.
0:47:08 — open the recording at 47 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 181 Council President, I will make a motion that we approve Resolution 8-2026.
0:47:12 — open the recording at 47 minutes 12 secondsSpeaker 0 Second. It's been moved by Councilperson Loudermilk, seconded by Councilperson Chalos, that Resolution 8-2026 be approved. All those in favor say aye.
0:47:21 — open the recording at 47 minutes 21 secondsSpeaker 157 Aye. Opposed, say nay. Motion passes. Resolution 8-2026 is adopted. Next item.
0:47:27 — open the recording at 47 minutes 27 secondsSpeaker 229 Resolution 9-2026, proclaiming the last Sunday in April as Workers' Memorial Day. Do we have a petitioner for this?
0:47:43 — open the recording at 47 minutes 43 secondsSpeaker 233 President Dinkel and members of the Council, thank you very much to allow me to say a few words about Workers Memorial Day. It was founded in 1990 at the AFL-CIO to increase the awareness of the unsafety of the workplace. also to commemorate those men who women who went to work and never came home the fatalities are horrendous and they are not to be believed because there are always ways around that and we are not doing it so every year on April 28th which is the date that the OSHA was passed We have a very solemn commemoration of the people who have died on the job.
0:48:47 — open the recording at 48 minutes 47 secondsSpeaker 233 And we also make that a time to increase the awareness of more that we need to do to have safe and safety at the workplace. So thank you very much for considering the resolution that we have put before you. We like to have this event close to April 28th, but we also like to do it on a Sunday when people can come and participate in this very solemn occasion. So we have brought this twice in front of the council, and you have been wonderfully supportive of it. And we have asked something slightly different this time.
0:49:43 — open the recording at 49 minutes 43 secondsSpeaker 233 Instead of our coming every year, we have asked that the proclamation would include that this uh this particular uh some uh commemoration have be be the last sunday in april which will always be close to the 28th and that's what we are putting forward thank you
0:50:11 — open the recording at 50 minutes 11 secondsSpeaker 16 thank you is there anyone from the public who wishes to comment on resolution 9 2026 Hearing none, we'll close public comment. Open council discussion.
0:50:24 — open the recording at 50 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 19 Councilperson Boland.
0:50:26 — open the recording at 50 minutes 26 secondsSpeaker 238 Well, Councilperson Nation typically likes to read the resolution.
0:50:31 — open the recording at 50 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 66 So in his absence, I'll be honored to go ahead and read this resolution. Resolution 9-2026 states, Whereas we acknowledge that conditions of work sites have improved since the passing of the Occupational Safety and Health Act, Act in 1970 and in the Indiana State Occupational Safety and Health Administration shortly after that, and whereas we remain committed to the ongoing advocacy of labor activists in the city of Terre Haute to continue to improve the quality of workplace through regular inspection
0:51:04 — open the recording at 51 minutes 4 secondsSpeaker 66 and high standards of health and safety measures, and whereas we are aware that injuries, illnesses, and fatalities are not accidents but are avoidable and preventable, and whereas we support the call for good jobs, safe jobs, and the protection of rights, and we pledge to seek ways to make these goals a reality, and whereas we honor the legacy of Eugene Victor Debs, who was proud to call the city of Terre Haute his home and was ahead of his time in his vision of equality and justice, and whereas we work at the local level and we are conscious
0:51:39 — open the recording at 51 minutes 39 secondsSpeaker 66 of the invisible, most vulnerable workers in our midst who have left out-of-state and federal workplace protections and whereas it is altogether right to remember those workers by name and deed who went to work for labor for the community and did not come home. Now, therefore, be it resolved, we, the Terre Haute City Council, join city and county governments and leaders all over the United States that are gathering as we are to proclaim the last Sunday of April to be Workers' Memorial Day in the city of Terre Haute. Thank you.
0:52:15 — open the recording at 52 minutes 15 secondsSpeaker 66 And if there are no further questions, my grandfather fell on a construction project in the early 1960s, and he's one of these fatalities. So if there's no further questions, I would like to move that Resolution 9-2026 be approved. Make a motion.
0:52:35 — open the recording at 52 minutes 35 secondsSpeaker 16 It's been moved by Councilperson Boland, seconded by Councilperson Hinton, that Resolution 9-2026 be adopted.
0:52:41 — open the recording at 52 minutes 41 secondsSpeaker 15 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, say nay. Motion passes. Resolution 9-2026 is adopted.
0:52:48 — open the recording at 52 minutes 48 secondsSpeaker 241 Thank you.
0:52:53 — open the recording at 52 minutes 53 secondsSpeaker 242 Move to adjourn.
0:52:55 — open the recording at 52 minutes 55 seconds Second.
0:52:56 — open the recording at 52 minutes 56 secondsSpeaker 15 It's been moved by Councilperson Azar, seconded by Councilperson Lauderville, that we adjourn. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Both say nay. Carrethro City Council stands adjourned.
0:53:05 — open the recording at 53 minutes 5 secondsSpeaker 249 Thanks. Good job. Great job. I'll just give you five minutes.
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