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City CouncilMay 14, 2026

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  1. 0:00:00 — open the recording at 0 secondsSpeaker 0 (resident) So we would have, this would be on the south end of the project from Holman Drive to Honey Creek Drive, and we would have all of the planets scaled to distance along that entire southbound length of the project. The reason we want them at the south is because there isn't really anything there right now encouraging people to go down there, so we thought this would be a cool educational aspect of the project. We also want to have informational plaques throughout the project. These could be for fun facts about Terre Haute, or they could be more educational, such as how is the infiltration basin being used to manage the stormwater.

  2. 0:00:27 — open the recording at 27 secondsSpeaker 0 (resident) We also want to have community gardens up at the north end of the project near Fairbanks Park. These could be managed by the Parks Department, the Wabash Valley Master Gardeners Association, or by Rethink. These would just be a great way for all the communities able to use them and able to gather there. And then the glow rocks, these would be used in the pavement for the multi-use path. These are being used in projects all over the country. They haven't shown any adverse environmental effects. But it's just a glow-in-the-dark rock that you can add to the pavement.

  3. 0:00:55 — open the recording at 55 secondsSpeaker 0 (resident) So they could be used very artistically like you see in this image or we could just have a line of them down the center to separate one side for pedestrians and one side for cyclists to make it even safer. The signage would be used throughout the entire length of the project, but the banners could be switched out for different events or different seasons. And then the wayfinding signage along the project would have a logo for the riverfront district and we would just be pointing out different key areas that we want pedestrians and cyclists to be able to visit.

  4. 0:01:20 — open the recording at 1 minute 20 secondsSpeaker 0 (resident) it. We want to have bollards up at the north end of the project. So these are those metal poles that raise up out of the roadway. And so when we have large events such as the banks of the Wabash Festival, we have a lot of pedestrians there. Maybe they want the festival to go out onto the roadway. Then we can just close that section of the roadway and make it safer for that larger influx of pedestrians. And then we also want a center in the center island of the roundabout. We want some sort of statue or sign. This could be designed

  5. 0:01:44 — open the recording at 1 minute 44 secondsSpeaker 0 (resident) by Art Spaces Terre Haute or a similar organization. But just since the roundabout is about halfway way down the project. It's a key area for the Riverfront District and so we want to have that as a welcoming aspect of the project.

  6. 0:02:00 — open the recording at 2 minutesBree (resident) So throughout the design process we made sure to check in with our design objectives to make sure that we are meeting our goals and the project needs. And so our first was to create more infrastructure for those pedestrians and cyclists to help them use the area. So we did this by increasing pedestrian and cyclist distance from the roadway as well as adding more travel options through that multi-use path. So as you can see in this image, the existing alignment, this represents the northern side of the project. The pedestrian cyclists are right up against the roadway. It's not very safe.

  7. 0:02:27 — open the recording at 2 minutes 27 secondsBree (resident) And as you can see in the bottom image, we added that infiltration basin and multi-use path to allow them to kind of spread out. And they're farther away from the motorists, creating a safer environment for everyone. So second, we created infiltration basins to increase infiltration to the area and help lessen the reliance on the CSO system. So as you can see, this is what the infiltration basins could look like. So all the runoff from the multi-use path and then that southbound travel lane will flow into the basins, allowing for infiltration.

  8. 0:02:55 — open the recording at 2 minutes 55 secondsBree (resident) So third, we added that roundabout at the Holman intersection. This helped to reduce the speed in the area, both of motorists entering the roundabout and exiting the roundabout to create lower speeds throughout the entire corridor. We also reduced the skew with the addition of the roundabout and then added more access for pedestrians and cyclists just to the area in general. So fourth is we wanted to implement key crossings at areas such as Fairbanks Park or near Ohio Street. So we did this by creating speed tables.

  9. 0:03:21 — open the recording at 3 minutes 21 secondsBree (resident) So we want to add one, or we did add one, just north of Ohio Street to allow everyone to cross the street, specifically like our lawyers who are trying to get to City Hall every day, stuff like that. It makes it easier for them to travel. So it'll look pretty similar to this. This is from the Riverfront Master Plan. And so there will be raised intersections to help them cross the northbound travel lane and southbound travel lane. and then there will be that pedestrian island, something similar to this, to help them cross the raised median as well as the infiltration basin.

  10. 0:03:48 — open the recording at 3 minutes 48 secondsBree (resident) And then sixth, we created a puzzle piece design to allow for budget modifications. So the quilting around our project is our three design elements can be combined in any way. So you can do two, all three, however you want, one at a time, just kind of depending on whatever the city feels is most important at the time or budget stuff. Please keep in mind this is a very preliminary cost estimate, so they're not final numbers by any means.

  11. 0:04:10 — open the recording at 4 minutes 10 secondsBree (resident) And then sixth, we wanted to make sure we used the Riverfront Master Plan surveys and data to create a design that the community wanted to use and met all their needs. So this is just an example of one of the surveys we used. As you can see, one of the things the community seemed to really want was like a run, bike, trail, something of that nature. And that's kind of what inspired a multi-use path idea. But overall, we really wanted to just create a design that met the community's needs and also was something that they wanted to use and would bring more people to the area.

  12. 0:04:37 — open the recording at 4 minutes 37 secondsBree (resident) Thank you. If you guys have any questions, thank you for your time.

  13. 0:04:42 — open the recording at 4 minutes 42 secondsSpeaker 11 Thank you. Anybody have any questions? Council President Hinton.

  14. 0:04:48 — open the recording at 4 minutes 48 secondsSpeaker 13 I don't have a question except to say this is exceptional work. Who's your professor? Is she here?

  15. 0:04:56 — open the recording at 4 minutes 56 secondsSpeaker 0 (resident) We worked with a lot of different professors. Our coach was Dr. Suterer who could not make it tonight, but we had a lot of different professors that we worked with on the project.

  16. 0:05:07 — open the recording at 5 minutes 7 secondsSpeaker 19 I hope you got A pluses. Hopefully.

  17. 0:05:11 — open the recording at 5 minutes 11 secondsSpeaker 20 (councillor) But this is exceptional work. And, I mean, that's the path that I've come to this building. When I leave my home, I come to Holman and make that right turn off of Holman onto first. And it can be a kerfuffle sometimes. Today it was. I'm still frustrated getting here. But that whole from Holman all the way here has always been kind of messy. So thank you for putting the thought into that. The lack of sidewalks in that area is critical and crucial for people to be able to use that area. So thank you for including that.

  18. 0:05:51 — open the recording at 5 minutes 51 secondsSpeaker 20 (councillor) I hope that we have funding and find funding to lay it out just like you planned it. and then you guys come back after you finish grad school or your first engineering job and help us cut the ribbon when we open it up. So thank you so much.

  19. 0:06:09 — open the recording at 6 minutes 9 secondsSpeaker 21 Councilperson, Hagen.

  20. 0:06:11 — open the recording at 6 minutes 11 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) Yeah, great work. Thank you very much. I'm wondering a couple of things. First, did you look at extending the trail that goes right next to the river down farther south

  21. 0:06:25 — open the recording at 6 minutes 25 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) and making basically a loop riverfront to your southern point

  22. 0:06:31 — open the recording at 6 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 26 and then coming back along First Street, Prairie Road? Or did you just keep your scope at First Street?

  23. 0:06:39 — open the recording at 6 minutes 39 secondsSpeaker 29 Thank you for the question. Bree can talk a little bit more about that.

  24. 0:06:43 — open the recording at 6 minutes 43 secondsBree (resident) We did consider that. It wasn't something we decided to implement. We would probably recommend somehow connecting those two. We didn't implement it just for time's sake. It's only a year project, and our professors thought that that was a little bit out of the scope of our project as we were just assigned the road, but we would like to see that somehow connect because I think it would be very useful for everyone to get to multiple places and be able to get closer to the riverfront.

  25. 0:07:05 — open the recording at 7 minutes 5 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) Yep, I agree. Another question, to what extent did you look at our combined sewer overflow plan and the work that's contemplated under First Street in the coming years?

  26. 0:07:21 — open the recording at 7 minutes 21 secondsSpeaker 0 (resident) So we had access to some of the plans and the Riverfront Master Plan, but our client asked us to create our own ideas, and so we weren't necessarily looking at what Terre Haute is already doing.

  27. 0:07:32 — open the recording at 7 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 35 Okay.

  28. 0:07:33 — open the recording at 7 minutes 33 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) The reason I ask, and Marcus knows this, and others in the administration, one way that we've actually gotten projects like this done up on top of the ground with trail components and rearranging public right away is by addressing the sewer lines underneath and then having the sanitary district fund the whole project including what goes back on top which could easily be or should arguably include the kinds of elements that you are all identifying here and suggesting. I may be out of date with what's planned for the combined sewer

  29. 0:08:19 — open the recording at 8 minutes 19 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) overflow program because it evolves. But you all know from looking at this area that we're most of the way done with the great big new lift station that is at the southern end of your project area here. And once that's finished, I think, I understand that one of the major projects in the future is going to be to go underneath that whole corridor with a, I think now it's a directional boring project. But it will disrupt the surface in a bunch of places. And if I'm not out of date and if I'm right about this, then rebuilding the surface is

  30. 0:09:10 — open the recording at 9 minutes 10 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) going to need to be done and could be done in a big way that actually implements a bunch of your ideas. So again, thank you. And Marcus, am I too far off on that? Okay. Okay. There's one other thing that I just will take this opportunity to reiterate, which is that when the new lift station is finished, there's a long planned effort that I am looking forward to see reach fruition that will turn that area where the old lift station is and then the settling ponds or the former settling ponds for the the paper mill that isn't there anymore, turn it all into a public park.

  31. 0:09:59 — open the recording at 9 minutes 59 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) And the effort that you're talking about would bring one more trail right to that public park and make it more accessible and usable to the people of Terre Haute. It's right on the river. I was just down there with my kids again last week looking at it and checking the progress of the new lift station and trying to imagine how it will connect to other places that people want to be, whether they're walking there or biking there or driving there and parking and then walking on a trail or whatever. And this is timely and valuable and great vision for what we could do

  32. 0:10:41 — open the recording at 10 minutes 41 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) along the street that leads right to that. So again, thank you very much.

  33. 0:10:48 — open the recording at 10 minutes 48 secondsSpeaker 26 I yield.

  34. 0:10:51 — open the recording at 10 minutes 51 secondsSpeaker 39 Councilperson Boland.

  35. 0:10:54 — open the recording at 10 minutes 54 secondsTammy Boland (councillor) Just real quick, excellent work. I don't think you missed anything. And I heard you say that you were most happy to present the social infrastructure part of the project. Well, I can tell you, I have to work for the company with that big blue slash on the building at that home, Holman Street, and I am most excited about that because I never run into somebody that works at that facility that doesn't ask me, when are you going to fix that? And I can't wait to share with them, at least we have a potential plan. So thank you very much for looking at all aspects of that. I yield.

  36. 0:11:25 — open the recording at 11 minutes 25 secondsSpeaker 46 Thank you.

  37. 0:11:29 — open the recording at 11 minutes 29 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) Okay, thank you.

  38. 0:11:30 — open the recording at 11 minutes 30 secondsSpeaker 46 Thank you for your time. Good work.

  39. 0:11:34 — open the recording at 11 minutes 34 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) Corrections to the journal from the preceding meeting. There are none. Communication from the mayor.

  40. 0:11:41 — open the recording at 11 minutes 41 seconds Nope.

  41. 0:11:42 — open the recording at 11 minutes 42 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) Reports from city officials. I receive none. Reports from Board of Public Works and Safety. I receive none. Reports from standing committees. There are none. for some non-standing committees. There are none. Items previously tabled. There are none. Tax abatements for confirmation. There are none. Items on second reading. There are none. Items on first reading. There are none. Review of CF1 filings. Finally. All right. In front of you,

  42. 0:12:06 — open the recording at 12 minutes 6 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) you will have several CF1 forms. The first one will be NJET. It was approved in 2018. It was a 10-year personal tax abatement. And they estimated that they would have 83 employees. They currently have 82. Salaries are higher. As a reminder for all of these, your motion will be in substantial compliance for not in substantial compliance.

  43. 0:12:33 — open the recording at 12 minutes 33 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) If the motion is approved for not in substantial compliance, a hearing will be needed to be held.

  44. 0:12:46 — open the recording at 12 minutes 46 secondsSpeaker 70 Thank you.

  45. 0:13:16 — open the recording at 13 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 77 (chair) Second. It's been moved by Councilperson Thompson, seconded by Councilperson Boland, that Injet Aero Terre Haute LLC's CF1 form for Resolution 10, 2018 be found in substantial compliance. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, say nay. Injet Aero Terre Haute LLC's CF1 form is found in substantial compliance. Next item.

  46. 0:13:39 — open the recording at 13 minutes 39 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) Your next one is for Heritage Landing CF1 Resolution 6-2022. The project is not complete. They're estimating it to be completed in August of this year. Typically, they had been filing letters notifying us of that status. This year, they filed a CF1 form.

  47. 0:14:01 — open the recording at 14 minutes 1 secondMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) They've estimated two employees. They have none, but again, the project is not complete.

  48. 0:14:09 — open the recording at 14 minutes 9 secondsSpeaker 84 You do not need to take action, but you could take action if you're in compliance.

  49. 0:14:24 — open the recording at 14 minutes 24 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) Michelle, can you remind us what the protocol is on when the clock actually starts ticking on the application of the abatement?

  50. 0:14:40 — open the recording at 14 minutes 40 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) We typically, going back several years, have went with when they're applying it at the

  51. 0:14:51 — open the recording at 14 minutes 51 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) auditor's office for real property or the assessor's office for personal property. I do check with them each year to get updates, you know, hey, has this one started or not? So that's when we usually start counting our ten years or eight years or nine, however many years it's been passed. So this one I was granted for eight years. So if it's real and they reassess, I'm looking at Councilperson Loudermilk, if they adjust the assessment for the improvements before March of the year, it will go on that year's property taxes and the tax abatement will begin.

  52. 0:15:34 — open the recording at 15 minutes 34 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) So at the earliest, this one could begin next year. Correct.

  53. 0:15:41 — open the recording at 15 minutes 41 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) So this hasn't started yet, and it's basically in a holding pattern until next year. At the earliest. And do our actions as to whether we...

  54. 0:15:52 — open the recording at 15 minutes 52 secondsSpeaker 53 (staff) Unless you rescind it, no.

  55. 0:15:54 — open the recording at 15 minutes 54 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) Okay. So we don't have to do... You said on the front end that we don't have to do anything. I'm just trying to understand why.

  56. 0:16:03 — open the recording at 16 minutes 3 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) So the official steps are you would have to find a company not in substantial compliance. That would pass. Then we would hold a hearing. At the hearing, you would deny. And then after the hearing, you would vote on a resolution to rescind. After it's rescinded, then I take copies to the auditor and the assessor.

  57. 0:16:25 — open the recording at 16 minutes 25 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) Yeah, no, don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to suggest that we should be taking this away. I'm just asking when it actually starts. Thanks for that explanation. That helps.

  58. 0:16:39 — open the recording at 16 minutes 39 secondsSpeaker 106 What did we do last year?

  59. 0:16:43 — open the recording at 16 minutes 43 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) Letter. The courtesy letters I always send out. I include a copy of their SB1 form, a link to the website to find these forms, etc. And I say you're welcome to send a letter if your project's not complete. Just give us an update of the status.

  60. 0:16:59 — open the recording at 16 minutes 59 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) And up until this year they had been sending letters.

  61. 0:17:07 — open the recording at 17 minutes 7 secondsSpeaker 112 Councilperson Hinton.

  62. 0:17:13 — open the recording at 17 minutes 13 secondsSpeaker 118 He hasn't yielded yet.

  63. 0:17:14 — open the recording at 17 minutes 14 secondsSpeaker 117 Oh, yeah, he yielded. Yep, I'm good.

  64. 0:17:16 — open the recording at 17 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 118 Where exactly is this property for a senior? Is it on 25th Street?

  65. 0:17:24 — open the recording at 17 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 121 Is this where it's going to be built?

  66. 0:17:26 — open the recording at 17 minutes 26 secondsSpeaker 123 Is it not the one that's in process now, Michelle? Right next to the veterans.

  67. 0:17:32 — open the recording at 17 minutes 32 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) They've started it, yes. Yes, they've started it. Is that 8? 801 North Miami 5th Street.

  68. 0:17:42 — open the recording at 17 minutes 42 secondsSpeaker 128 So they have started but they haven't. They have but they haven't.

  69. 0:17:50 — open the recording at 17 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 133 There was some hold up. Sorry.

  70. 0:17:54 — open the recording at 17 minutes 54 secondsSpeaker 134 So they have started but they haven't.

  71. 0:17:55 — open the recording at 17 minutes 55 secondsSpeaker 137 They've started but it hasn't been completed. So typically the abatement doesn't start until the full project is complete and it hits the assessor's office.

  72. 0:18:06 — open the recording at 18 minutes 6 secondsKandace G. Hinton (councillor) So who owns the property right now? They do? They do, I believe. But they're not paying taxes right now. They would be paying taxes. They are paying taxes.

  73. 0:18:17 — open the recording at 18 minutes 17 secondsSpeaker 142 They get in vain unless the project is complete. Thank you.

  74. 0:18:24 — open the recording at 18 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 146 I don't like until Candace yields.

  75. 0:18:27 — open the recording at 18 minutes 27 secondsSpeaker 147 (staff) They're still paying taxes on the property. once it is assessed, like Michelle said, they will apply 100% abatement for the first year. I will say the law does state that if the assessors would choose on March 1 to place a portion of the assessment on it, even though it isn't complete, you can start their abatement on that portion. However, once it's 100% complete, then you have that portion sitting in, if it's the second year at 95%, and then the rest of that percentage that they got AV'd on, you're at 100%. And so then it ends up in phases.

  76. 0:19:08 — open the recording at 19 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 147 (staff) The normal procedure for a lot of them is just to wait until the project's complete and just start the abatement. That's one reason you don't see them start it, unless it's maybe a huge project that's going to last over two or three, four years. They're building it. Then they'll do the phases of the abatement. But if they do this. But, yes, they are paying taxes on basically probably the land is what's on there.

  77. 0:19:37 — open the recording at 19 minutes 37 secondsSpeaker 153 Thank you. Thank you.

  78. 0:19:40 — open the recording at 19 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 154 So we do not have to take action on this at all. You do not have to.

  79. 0:19:47 — open the recording at 19 minutes 47 secondsSpeaker 158 Right. I mean, you can't say they're not even complied.

  80. 0:19:50 — open the recording at 19 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 159 It hasn't started yet. Right. But it also doesn't hurt if you do because it will not start the clock.

  81. 0:19:55 — open the recording at 19 minutes 55 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) Okay. So it doesn't matter. He can ask for a motion and nobody makes a motion.

  82. 0:20:02 — open the recording at 20 minutes 2 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) And then I just put it in the folders, no action taken, no biggie. Or you can make a motion that is instantaneously.

  83. 0:20:09 — open the recording at 20 minutes 9 secondsSpeaker 164 And then it will come back once the project starts. Okay. Thank you. Does nobody make a motion?

  84. 0:20:17 — open the recording at 20 minutes 17 secondsSpeaker 57 Council President DeBond.

  85. 0:20:18 — open the recording at 20 minutes 18 secondsSpeaker 166 Yeah, if there be enough for their discussion, I'll make a motion that we find Heritage Landing, CF1, RS6, 2022,

  86. 0:20:26 — open the recording at 20 minutes 26 secondsCurtis DeBaun IV (councillor) in substantial compliance.

  87. 0:20:29 — open the recording at 20 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 77 (chair) Second. So moved by Councilperson DeVon, seconded by Councilperson Nation, that Heritage Landing LP's CF1 form for Resolution 6, 2022 be found in substantial compliance. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, say no. Heritage Landing LP's CF1 form is found in substantial compliance. Next item.

  88. 0:20:51 — open the recording at 20 minutes 51 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) There's two for Highland, Resolution 8 2020 and Resolution 9 2020. Resolution 8 is the personal, Resolution 9 is the real. And on the personal Resolution 8, it will expire 2032, pay 2033. They estimated that they would have 27 employees and they have 28 and salaries are higher.

  89. 0:21:19 — open the recording at 21 minutes 19 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) So this, 10 years back, just began a couple years ago.

  90. 0:21:43 — open the recording at 21 minutes 43 secondsSpeaker 178 Councilperson Loudermont.

  91. 0:21:44 — open the recording at 21 minutes 44 secondsSpeaker 181 Mr. President, if there's no further discussion, I'll make a motion that we find Highland Retina. Both have one at the same time. Highland Retina CF1, Resolution 8, 2020, in substantial compliance. Second.

  92. 0:22:01 — open the recording at 22 minutes 1 secondSpeaker 77 (chair) Then moved by Council President Loudermilk, seconded by Council President Thompson, the Highland Retina Associates LLC CF1 form, Resolution 8, 2020, be found in substantial compliance. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, say nay. Highland Retina Associates LLC CF1 form is found in substantial compliance. Next item.

  93. 0:22:21 — open the recording at 22 minutes 21 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) Highland for CF1 Resolution 9-2020, as I stated previously, when additional employee salaries are higher, this is their real one, which will expire 2032, pay 2033.

  94. 0:22:35 — open the recording at 22 minutes 35 secondsSpeaker 187 Councilperson DeBond.

  95. 0:22:36 — open the recording at 22 minutes 36 secondsCurtis DeBaun IV (councillor) Mr. President, if there be no discussion on this, I'll go ahead and move that Highland Retina CF1 RS9-2020 be found in substantial compliance.

  96. 0:22:45 — open the recording at 22 minutes 45 secondsSpeaker 189 Second.

  97. 0:22:46 — open the recording at 22 minutes 46 secondsSpeaker 77 (chair) It's been moved by Councilperson DeBond, seconded by Councilperson Loudermilk. The Highland Retina Associates LLC CF1 form for Resolution 9-2020 be found in substantial compliance. All those in favor say aye.

  98. 0:22:56 — open the recording at 22 minutes 56 secondsSpeaker 191 (chair) Aye. Opposed, say nay. Highland Retina Associates LLC CF1 form is found in substantial compliance. Next item.

  99. 0:23:05 — open the recording at 23 minutes 5 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) KJB Holdings, they have two Resolution 11-2020 and Resolution 12-2020. Resolution 11-2020 is the real abatement. It will expire 2029, pay 2030. They estimated that they would have 11 employees. They currently have 13. Salaries are slightly higher than originally estimated.

  100. 0:23:27 — open the recording at 23 minutes 27 secondsSpeaker 53 (staff) and this was a seven year abatement for the real eight year abatement for the personal

  101. 0:23:38 — open the recording at 23 minutes 38 secondsSpeaker 70 councilperson thompson if there's no discussion i would move that we find kg kjb holding cf1 resolution 11-2020 in substantial compliance. Second.

  102. 0:24:00 — open the recording at 24 minutesSpeaker 77 (chair) We move by Councilperson Thompson, seconded by Councilperson Hinton that KJB Holding Company LLC CF1 form for resolution 11-2020 be found in substantial compliance. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say no. KJB Holding Company LLC CF1 form is found in substantial compliance. Next item. KJB Holding

  103. 0:24:23 — open the recording at 24 minutes 23 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) CF1 resolution 11, I'm sorry, 12, 2020. I have to watch myself on that one. This is a personal, it is eight years. It expires pay 2030, I'm sorry, 2030 pay 2031. Same on employees, same on salaries.

  104. 0:24:42 — open the recording at 24 minutes 42 secondsSpeaker 205 Council President DeBond.

  105. 0:24:43 — open the recording at 24 minutes 43 secondsCurtis DeBaun IV (councillor) If there be no discussion on this item, I'll go ahead and move that we find KGB holding CF1 RS 12, 2020

  106. 0:24:52 — open the recording at 24 minutes 52 secondsSpeaker 189 in substantial compliance.

  107. 0:24:54 — open the recording at 24 minutes 54 secondsSpeaker 77 (chair) Okay. Then moved by Councilperson DeBond, seconded by Councilperson Bullen, the KJB Holding Company, LLC, CF1 form for Resolution 12, 2020, be found in substantial compliance. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say aye. KJB Holding Company, LLC, CF1 form is found in substantial compliance. Next item.

  108. 0:25:15 — open the recording at 25 minutes 15 secondsSpeaker 98 Miller-Parrott, CF1, Resolution 17, 2017.

  109. 0:25:19 — open the recording at 25 minutes 19 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) This will expire 2029, page 2030, nine-year real abatement. They estimated two employees.

  110. 0:25:28 — open the recording at 25 minutes 28 secondsSpeaker 210 They do currently have two employees. Salaries are much higher.

  111. Highlight drawn from this moment: Council questions why a tax-abated apartment building has only two employees

    0:25:36 — open the recording at 25 minutes 36 secondsSpeaker 214 I have a question.

  112. 0:25:38 — open the recording at 25 minutes 38 secondsSpeaker 213 Councilperson Hinton.

  113. 0:25:39 — open the recording at 25 minutes 39 secondsSpeaker 214 Yes, thank you.

  114. 0:25:40 — open the recording at 25 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 216 How do they only have two employees? Is two employees after they got, because it's a nice-sized facility.

  115. 0:25:46 — open the recording at 25 minutes 46 secondsKandace G. Hinton (councillor) Oh, wow, that. How do they run it? Pointless. Question of the manager. Are other people not included?

  116. 0:25:57 — open the recording at 25 minutes 57 secondsSpeaker 191 (chair) Could be contract workers that aren't full-time employees. Technically, it's hard telling. We could hold it here and find it.

  117. 0:26:08 — open the recording at 26 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 224 Councilperson DeBond. Seeing that they do have the number of employees they claim they would

  118. Highlight drawn from this moment: Council questions why a tax-abated apartment building has only two employees

    0:26:13 — open the recording at 26 minutes 13 secondsCurtis DeBaun IV (councillor) and the salary is significantly higher, I'll go ahead and make a motion that we find Miller-Parrott CF1 Resolution 17-2017 in substantial compliance.

  119. 0:26:24 — open the recording at 26 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 227 Second.

  120. 0:26:25 — open the recording at 26 minutes 25 secondsSpeaker 77 (chair) It's been moved by Councilperson DeBond, seconded by Councilperson Thompson, that Miller-Parrott Loft's LP CF1 form for Resolution 17-2017 be found in substantial compliance. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, say no. Miller-Parrott Loft's LP CF1 form is found in substantial compliance. Next item.

  121. 0:26:47 — open the recording at 26 minutes 47 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) Last item, Warren Village 2, CF1, Resolution 14, 2016. I believe a couple of our council members will remember this was the second phase of the housing projects for Warren Village. Ten-year real abatement expires 2029, pay 2030. They estimated one employee.

  122. 0:27:09 — open the recording at 27 minutes 9 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) They currently have four, and this may lead to Councilperson Hinton's question earlier. salaries are slightly higher. You never know if they're part-time or full-time.

  123. 0:27:28 — open the recording at 27 minutes 28 secondsSpeaker 53 (staff) And you also see in your documents a list of all the properties that are included in this abatement.

  124. 0:27:40 — open the recording at 27 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 234 Mr. President?

  125. 0:27:41 — open the recording at 27 minutes 41 secondsSpeaker 57 Councilperson Nation.

  126. Highlight drawn from this moment: Councilman Nation: property tax breaks are helping build affordable and senior housing

    0:27:42 — open the recording at 27 minutes 42 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) So I do remember the Warren Village, both of the phases. Of course, the first phase was for the school itself, the former Warren Elementary School. And in this phase two, if you look at the description, it's the construction of a multifamily residential property consisting of 21-bedroom apartments and 20 single-family homes on 19 individual sites. so there was a new construction element on the back of the school I think or nearby and then there were a bunch of homes on individual sites. This was kind of different from many of the other abatements

  127. Highlight drawn from this moment: Councilman Nation: property tax breaks are helping build affordable and senior housing

    0:28:29 — open the recording at 28 minutes 29 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) that we've been asked to do because it's not just one property that you can go and look at. You've got to look at 20 different places to get a picture of what they did. I think that zooming out a little bit from the particulars of this one. This is a housing authority project, the Terre Haute Housing Authority project, that is homes for people with limited incomes. And same thing with Miller Parrot Lofts, the one that we just discussed. And then also, all the way back to near the beginning, heritage landing construction of affordable senior housing. So what we're doing with these

  128. 0:29:18 — open the recording at 29 minutes 18 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) projects is helping use a tool, in this case tax abatement, to help incentivize the construction of low-income housing or fixed-income housing, however you want to put it, senior housing in one case. I personally think that this is a great use of this tool from a city council perspective. Also, staying zoomed out and looking at some of the other things that we've been asked to do, and we found them all in compliance because they all did what they said they would. But it's a printing company with a bunch of good jobs. It's the engine

  129. 0:30:03 — open the recording at 30 minutes 3 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) parts company just to the south of us that I had the privilege of touring a few years ago when they asked for an abatement. And that place has a lot of good jobs. These are all good paying jobs, reputable employers. I would submit that what we've got in front of us, all of it as a whole, represents a pretty defensible and good use of tax abatement as a tool. So I'll get off my soap box. I always see this process that we're doing right now as part of my education on just exactly what it is we're agreeing to when we say yes to a tax abatement.

  130. 0:30:54 — open the recording at 30 minutes 54 secondsTodd Nation (councillor) And, you know, these things persist over years, and we have an opportunity every year to kind of check and see if they're actually doing what they said they would do. And with that, if there's no further discussion, I move that we find Warren Village to LP.

  131. 0:31:12 — open the recording at 31 minutes 12 secondsSpeaker 104 which is resolution number 14-2016 in substantial compliance.

  132. Highlight drawn from this moment: Councilman Nation: property tax breaks are helping build affordable and senior housing

    0:31:18 — open the recording at 31 minutes 18 secondsSpeaker 77 (chair) Second. It's been moved by Councilperson Nation, seconded by Councilperson Chalos that Warren Village 2LP's CF1 form of resolution 14-2016 be found in substantial compliance. All those in favor say aye. Aye.

  133. 0:31:32 — open the recording at 31 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 238 Opposed say aye. Warren Village 2LP's CF1 form is found in substantial compliance.

  134. 0:31:38 — open the recording at 31 minutes 38 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) I'm sorry, Councilperson Azar, that we have both.

  135. 0:31:41 — open the recording at 31 minutes 41 secondsMichelle L. Edwards (clerk) Real quick, we may be having a special call in June to handle, because we have almost 20 companies who have not filed their CF1 forms. So notices will be sent out closer to those dates, correct? Yes. Okay.

  136. 0:31:57 — open the recording at 31 minutes 57 secondsSpeaker 241 That it? Sure. I move to adjourn. Second.

  137. 0:32:04 — open the recording at 32 minutes 4 secondsSpeaker 243 The move by Councilperson, is there a second by Councilperson Nation that we adjourn? All those in favor say aye.

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