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County CouncilAug 11, 2026

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Vigo County Council · Aug 11, 2026

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1. 0:00:00 — open the recording at 0 secondsSpeaker 0: Please rise for the pledge.

2. 0:00:11 — open the recording at 11 secondsSpeaker 3: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

3. 0:00:24 — open the recording at 24 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): All right, you guys want to proceed with roll call, please?

4. 0:00:33 — open the recording at 33 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): David Thompson is on a business trip. Brad Anderson? Here. Brenda Wilson?

5. 0:00:39 — open the recording at 39 secondsSpeaker 12 (clerk): Here. Nancy Alsop? Here. Randy Gentry? Here. Vicki Wager? Here. Steve Ellis? Here.

6. 0:00:47 — open the recording at 47 secondsSpeaker 15 (chair): All right. Correction of the journal. Proceeding meetings if needed. This would be the June 2, 2026 Sunshine Meeting, page 32.

7. 0:01:13 — open the recording at 1 minute 13 secondsSpeaker 18: Mr. President, point of order. Yes, sir.

8. 0:01:16 — open the recording at 1 minute 16 secondsSpeaker 20: Just to remind, we passed rules back in February, and the videotaping of our proceedings always take precedence. Correct.

9. 0:01:30 — open the recording at 1 minute 30 secondsSpeaker 21: Motion to approve.

10. 0:01:32 — open the recording at 1 minute 32 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Motion by Councilman Gentry to approve.

11. 0:01:36 — open the recording at 1 minute 36 seconds Second.

12. 0:01:36 — open the recording at 1 minute 36 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Second by Councilwoman Wager. Roll call, please.

13. 0:01:43 — open the recording at 1 minute 43 secondsSpeaker 25 (clerk): David Thompson. Brad Anderson? Aye. Vicki Wager? Aye. Steve Ellis?

14. 0:01:50 — open the recording at 1 minute 50 secondsSpeaker 12 (clerk): Aye. Randy Gentry? Aye. Nancy Alsop?

15. 0:01:53 — open the recording at 1 minute 53 secondsSpeaker 28: Aye. Brenda Wilson? Aye.

16. 0:01:55 — open the recording at 1 minute 55 secondsSpeaker 15 (chair): All right, moving on to June 9, 20, 26 meeting, page 36.

17. 0:02:00 — open the recording at 2 minutesSpeaker 22 (chair): Once again, to Councilman Gentry's point, we are looking at that, but also the video will always take precedence.

18. 0:02:16 — open the recording at 2 minutes 16 secondsSpeaker 21: Motion to approve.

19. 0:02:21 — open the recording at 2 minutes 21 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Motion to approve by Councilman Gentry.

20. 0:02:24 — open the recording at 2 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 33: I second it.

21. 0:02:26 — open the recording at 2 minutes 26 secondsSpeaker 24: Second by Councilwoman Alsup. Roll call, please.

22. 0:02:30 — open the recording at 2 minutes 30 secondsSpeaker 12 (clerk): David Thompson. Brad Anderson. Aye. Brenda Wilson. Aye. Nancy Alsup. Aye. Randy Gentry. Aye. Vicki Weger. Aye. Steve Ellis.

23. 0:02:38 — open the recording at 2 minutes 38 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Aye. All right, communications from elected officials, other officials or agencies of the county.

24. 0:02:44 — open the recording at 2 minutes 44 secondsSpeaker 39: Councilman Gentry.

25. 0:02:47 — open the recording at 2 minutes 47 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Council is going to discuss an appropriation to community corrections. Based on our rules, we would be prohibited from taking that appropriation up based on the fact that we are not allowed to review an item that had been voted down for 12 months thus i will be requesting that we make a motion that rule 10 of the council rules be modified to allow us to review an appropriation that had been denied previously after six months instead of 12 months so i would modify rule 10 so I make that motion so that we can proceed later in this meeting all right

26. 0:03:46 — open the recording at 3 minutes 46 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): motion by Councilman Gentry seconded but seconded by Councilwoman all set

27. 0:03:53 — open the recording at 3 minutes 53 secondsBrenda Wilson (councillor): discussion I'm not sure since we're not attorneys that we should be doing anything like this without our council president okay are you suggesting that

28. 0:04:03 — open the recording at 4 minutes 3 secondsSpeaker 30 (chair): we do not vote on this okay are you making a motion to modify the motion sure yes we have a motion by councilwoman Wilson to table is that where

29. 0:04:23 — open the recording at 4 minutes 23 secondsBrenda Wilson (councillor): I'm good I don't want put words in your mouth yes let's table this until we have the our attorney present to oversee and get questions answered about it okay so

30. 0:04:32 — open the recording at 4 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 30 (chair): So there's a motion on the table to amend the motion by Councilwoman Wilson to table

31. 0:04:39 — open the recording at 4 minutes 39 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): this and not vote on it until our attorney is present. Do we have a second to that?

32. 0:04:45 — open the recording at 4 minutes 45 secondsSpeaker 57: You have a motion on the floor.

33. 0:04:47 — open the recording at 4 minutes 47 secondsSpeaker 58: You have a motion on the floor that we have to deal with first, I guess.

34. 0:04:52 — open the recording at 4 minutes 52 secondsSpeaker 60: Okay.

35. 0:04:55 — open the recording at 4 minutes 55 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Further discussion before we move forward? please keep in mind this will take a two-thirds majority vote which means it would take five

36. 0:05:05 — open the recording at 5 minutes 5 secondsSpeaker 64: people to pass we have a motion yes sir mr gentry rule 10 you're going to modify that

37. 0:05:17 — open the recording at 5 minutes 17 secondsSpeaker 66: Rule 10 says what we can

38. 0:05:22 — open the recording at 5 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 69: Rule 10 Councilman Anderson

39. 0:05:25 — open the recording at 5 minutes 25 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Rule 10 currently prohibits this council from taking action on an item that had previously been denied and so we had discussed a month ago that we could not vote on the community corrections 200,000 because it had been stripped by the budget committee and then voted on by the entire council. So to modify Rule 10 from 12 months to six months, since it's been more than six months, it would then allow us to go back today and then vote on that $200,000. So the Rule 10 changes from 12. I'm asking for a change of Rule 10 from 12 months to six months, which would then open the door for us to vote.

40. 0:06:12 — open the recording at 6 minutes 12 secondsSpeaker 71: So when could we vote on it?

41. 0:06:15 — open the recording at 6 minutes 15 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Tonight, because the denial of the $200,000 was last fall.

42. 0:06:21 — open the recording at 6 minutes 21 secondsSpeaker 73: Okay, from the budget? Yes. Okay, that was my question.

43. 0:06:24 — open the recording at 6 minutes 24 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Yes, it has never been voted on. The $200,000 was not voted on.

44. 0:06:32 — open the recording at 6 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 76: It was taken out of the budget, and then the council voted to take that out.

45. 0:06:36 — open the recording at 6 minutes 36 secondsSpeaker 51: Thanks for that clarification. That eliminates my...

46. 0:06:40 — open the recording at 6 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 78: Are you okay with that?

47. 0:06:41 — open the recording at 6 minutes 41 secondsSpeaker 51: Yes, thank you.

48. 0:06:42 — open the recording at 6 minutes 42 secondsSpeaker 60: all right any further discussion or concerns from counsel all right we have

49. 0:06:48 — open the recording at 6 minutes 48 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): a motion in a second roll call please and once again I want to repeat what this is for this is what we are currently voting on is rule number 10 we want to change the time frame that it takes to vote on something that was previously denied or turned down or voted down from a one-year period or a 12-month period to a six-month period that is what we are voting on roll call

50. 0:07:10 — open the recording at 7 minutes 10 secondsSpeaker 48: please. Question. Yes, sir. Is that a permanent? Yes, I intend that the motion to be permanent

51. 0:07:17 — open the recording at 7 minutes 17 secondsBrenda Wilson (councillor): until new rules are adopted. Okay. Point of clarification, just to be sure. Yes. This means that we can vote on this community corrections tonight. Correct. We would be able to vote

52. 0:07:29 — open the recording at 7 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 60: tonight. Thank you. All right. Any other further discussion? I'm sorry. No, you're fine. It's

53. 0:07:34 — open the recording at 7 minutes 34 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): good to have it clarified. Yep. All right. Roll call, please. David Thompson. Brad Anderson. Aye. Brenda Wilson. Aye. Nancy Alsop. Aye. Randy Gentry. Aye. Mickey Wager. Aye. Steve Ellis. Aye. Motion passes 6-0.

54. 0:07:50 — open the recording at 7 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): All right. Any other communications from elected officials, other officials, or agencies?

55. 0:07:57 — open the recording at 7 minutes 57 secondsDiana Smith (staff): Yes, ma'am. Diana Smith, Vigo County Recorder. I wanted to take an opportunity to address.

56. 0:08:04 — open the recording at 8 minutes 4 secondsSpeaker 90: Is your mic on? Yes. Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

57. 0:08:07 — open the recording at 8 minutes 7 secondsDiana Smith (staff): I wanted to take an opportunity to address the suggestions that Commissioner Morris presented regarding the Beagle County Recorder's office. At no time has Commissioner Morris reached out to me to discuss my office, my staff or the services we provide. I am therefore concerned about how these suggestions were presented without first having a conversation with myself. I have concerns about the impact of this position may have, not only to the recorder's office, but potentially to the public defender's office as well.

58. 0:08:44 — open the recording at 8 minutes 44 secondsDiana Smith (staff): Decisions that affect county offices and public deserves communication, transparency, and an opportunity for those directly involved to be heard. This situation has serious concerns for me regarding trust and integrity. Moving forward, it is important that information shared with county officials, department heads, and the public is accurate, transparent, and communicated in good faith. Trust is essential to the way we work together for the people of the county.

59. 0:09:21 — open the recording at 9 minutes 21 secondsDiana Smith (staff): In the email that I sent the council, I provided specific numbers outlining what the Recorder's Office contributes back to the County General Fund, as well as the services and support we provide to the other offices within this building. I believe those facts should be considered when discussing any proposal changes involving the Recorder's Office. My goal is not to create conflict. My goal is to ensure that the recorder's office, its employees, the taxpayers we serve treated fairly,

60. 0:09:59 — open the recording at 9 minutes 59 secondsDiana Smith (staff): and that decisions are based on facts, communications, and a clear understanding of the work being done every day.

61. 0:10:08 — open the recording at 10 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 95: Thank you very much.

62. 0:10:11 — open the recording at 10 minutes 11 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Any other public, or not public yet, but any other communications from elected officials, other officials?

63. 0:10:18 — open the recording at 10 minutes 18 secondsSpeaker 30 (chair): all right moving on to public comment any public comment all right reports from

64. 0:10:27 — open the recording at 10 minutes 27 secondsSpeaker 99: committees budget committee any updates we have we have budget committee meetings

65. 0:10:36 — open the recording at 10 minutes 36 secondsSpeaker 30 (chair): tomorrow and the next couple days okay thank you any further all right

66. 0:10:48 — open the recording at 10 minutes 48 secondsSpeaker 60: All right, resolutions and ordinances other than appropriations.

67. 0:10:58 — open the recording at 10 minutes 58 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Resolution of reallocation of existing appropriation 2026-2, transfer of funds, page 9, IT.

68. 0:11:07 — open the recording at 11 minutes 7 secondsSpeaker 108: Any questions on this?

69. 0:11:12 — open the recording at 11 minutes 12 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Mr. President.

70. 0:11:14 — open the recording at 11 minutes 14 secondsSpeaker 19: Yes, sir.

71. Highlight · drawn from this moment: IT moves $40,000 out of the county's computer-replacement fund to cover a contract that includes new website ADA rules

    0:11:15 — open the recording at 11 minutes 15 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): We had a great conversation. Thank you for taking the time to chat about this. Thank you. It seems at the surface level that this was a very simplistic move of money from one pot to another pot to cover some expenses. but after a very detailed conversation I've come to the conclusion that while I don't oppose this $40,000 transfer I think you've even concluded that this is actually a kind of a situation that maybe we have to rethink this a little bit as well and maybe have to come back in a future month to to get this right so

72. 0:11:59 — open the recording at 11 minutes 59 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Just for public record, the $40,000 is coming out of a fund that was designed to replace aging and older Vigo County employee equipment. so by pulling that $40,000 from that fund and putting the $40,000 into this contractual services and we really don't know what the contractual services are going to cost at the end of this right that's correct so exactly I would encourage the council to and and I ask you to come back as well I think we're going to have to re-establish that $40,000 because you relayed to me that this is actually going to be a detriment.

73. 0:12:50 — open the recording at 12 minutes 50 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): You're going to slow down the equipment renewal, and we all know what it's like working on a computer that has aged out and is no longer getting updates, those types of things.

74. 0:13:01 — open the recording at 13 minutes 1 secondSpeaker 111: Unfortunately, we do have some of those still. Yeah.

75. Highlight · drawn from this moment: IT moves $40,000 out of the county's computer-replacement fund to cover a contract that includes new website ADA rules

    0:13:04 — open the recording at 13 minutes 4 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): So, you know, council, as far as the $40,000 goes, he may actually need more than $40,000. That is just an educated guess as to the services required. I think it's also important that the council know in our conversation, as well as the research that I did, that there's new federal laws coming into play. And very much like stores and retail locations and government parking lots must have ADA compliant spaces, websites are going to be mandated to follow ADA compliance. And very, very specific rules that will require that this county as well as businesses comply.

76. 0:13:52 — open the recording at 13 minutes 52 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): and so part of this $40,000 is at least a start to get our website ADA compliant so that we will not be fined by the federal government and that rollout's April 27 and April 28, I think.

77. 0:14:10 — open the recording at 14 minutes 10 secondsSpeaker 112: Yeah, end of April, I think you're right.

78. 0:14:13 — open the recording at 14 minutes 13 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): So, council, there's more work to be done on this and I would encourage a future appropriation for the $40,000 back into the fund that he's currently asking for this money so that we can continue to update our equipment and keep our equipment new. The other thing is we've got to stay on top of this from the standpoint that if you were paying attention recently in the news, it's easy for foreign entities to try to hack into government equipment. so we must keep our equipment top-notch and uh we try to make it not easy but yeah so there's a lot

79. 0:14:54 — open the recording at 14 minutes 54 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): of reasons to do this thank you thank you by the way for your time on the phone the other day thank

80. 0:14:58 — open the recording at 14 minutes 58 secondsSpeaker 98: you appreciate appreciate your time a question uh you're talking about more money in the future what

81. 0:15:03 — open the recording at 15 minutes 3 secondsSpeaker 116 (staff): kind of door are we talking about well we're trying to address that in the budget committee with the new equipment raised there i mean the price of computers are going up they've almost doubled so we're trying to address it there putting the 40,000 back in eventually would help that's a decent we've replaced a lot this year but taking money out of there is going to slow that down a little bit and we still have some older computers just can tell you we do surveys all the time and there's some old ones still out there unfortunately that will be at the top of the list that

82. 0:15:37 — open the recording at 15 minutes 37 secondsSpeaker 116 (staff): we can still get this year with that money so any further discussion I just

83. 0:15:43 — open the recording at 15 minutes 43 secondsSpeaker 20: would follow up yeah I just follow up council member wager I believe that what

84. 0:15:50 — open the recording at 15 minutes 50 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): I was suggesting is is to give him the 40,000 back into the equipment fund to make sure that we continue to upgrade our computers to stave off any problems

85. 0:16:02 — open the recording at 16 minutes 2 secondsSpeaker 20: that we may have if we don't so do we have any emotions on the table motion to

86. 0:16:09 — open the recording at 16 minutes 9 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): approve motion by councilman Gentry second second by a councilman Anderson

87. 0:16:14 — open the recording at 16 minutes 14 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): once again we are voting on resolution this is 2026-02 roll call please David

88. Highlight · drawn from this moment: IT moves $40,000 out of the county's computer-replacement fund to cover a contract that includes new website ADA rules

    0:16:22 — open the recording at 16 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): Thompson Brad Anderson hi Brenda Wilson Nancy also Randy Gentry hi Vicki

89. 0:16:29 — open the recording at 16 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 125 (chair): wager hi Steve Bell hi thank you all right moving to 2026 in dash to

90. 0:16:40 — open the recording at 16 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 128: council president that ordinance for establishing Vigo County Sheriff's Office ordinance 2026 dash to has been withdrawn at this time okay thank you

91. 0:16:50 — open the recording at 16 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 129: very much 2026 for

92. 0:16:55 — open the recording at 16 minutes 55 secondsSpeaker 133: give me some heads up on that I wasn't aware it's been withdrawn my apologies

93. 0:17:05 — open the recording at 17 minutes 5 secondsSpeaker 137: I had a different information I apologize go ahead sir oh I'm sorry okay

94. 0:17:10 — open the recording at 17 minutes 10 secondsJeff Fox (staff): members of the council Jeff Fox for the sheriff's office in regards to this ordinance establishing the Sheriff's Office Ordinance Bureau at the last meeting there was a conversation concerning authority on who should pass this ordinance I was contacted by attorney modesty with who serves as a county attorney who said that the amicable solution that he would propose and again I can't speak for his conversations was that simply both parties approve it so if the council approves it then the commissioner should approve it and then we've solved the issue that way there's no discussion as

95. 0:17:47 — open the recording at 17 minutes 47 secondsJeff Fox (staff): to who has proper authority. Councilman Gentry had also suggested that the ordinance or the language be placed into a current ordinance that there was no need to have one outstanding and so we recommend to the council as I sent to all of you that the language simply be placed into the animal control ordinance that's the most applicable place for it and therefore both parties could approve

96. 0:18:13 — open the recording at 18 minutes 13 secondsJeff Fox (staff): and we can move on to the next topic. It's really pretty straightforward. There's no cost here. Again, as I explained to you folks before, we're just simply trying to meet the trial court technology's requirements that it be established so that we can cite people under these two applicable ordinances. And so I was not aware of any other conversations other than what Mr. Mata said had relayed and that I sent all of you an email based upon his suggestion and the appropriate change in language location. We're not changing the language, so it still could be addressed tonight.

97. 0:18:52 — open the recording at 18 minutes 52 secondsJeff Fox (staff): We simply placed it into the animal control ordinance as opposed to having a separate ordinance established in the Bureau.

98. 0:18:58 — open the recording at 18 minutes 58 seconds Okay.

99. 0:19:00 — open the recording at 19 minutesSpeaker 146: Do you have questions?

100. 0:19:02 — open the recording at 19 minutes 2 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Yeah. Mr. President.

101. 0:19:04 — open the recording at 19 minutes 4 secondsSpeaker 39: Councilman Gentry.

102. 0:19:06 — open the recording at 19 minutes 6 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Several conversations, multiple phone calls on this. I have major concerns as I talk to both Terry Modisett and our council attorney that has been delayed in her arrival tonight. I think one of the things that we have to look at is 33-36-3-1, that's Indiana code, and 33-36-2-1.

103. 0:19:36 — open the recording at 19 minutes 36 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): there's a sequence of events that must occur whereby we would name a ordinance clerk and then we would need to define exactly what the penalties were in regards to these ordinances

104. 0:19:54 — open the recording at 19 minutes 54 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): this has long been established as something that was done by the commissioners the fact that there is currently an ordinance on the books that the commissioners actually had passed,

105. 0:20:08 — open the recording at 20 minutes 8 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): and we are going into a mode where we would change this and try to adopt an ordinance tonight

106. 0:20:17 — open the recording at 20 minutes 17 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): that not only establishes the sheriff essentially as the clerk of the ordinance bureau, it allows the sheriff to appoint potentially even higher administrative staff clerical personnel law enforcement officers and other staff as deemed necessary so in the conversations that I had with both our County Attorney Terry Modisett and our council attorney it became clear that there was a need to

107. 0:20:53 — open the recording at 20 minutes 53 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): take another deeper look at this and determine exactly what was actually being asked for and to make sure that we got this right rather than to vote on it so i was under the impression coming into tonight's meeting that this was to be either requested to be tabled for further review or

108. 0:21:13 — open the recording at 21 minutes 13 secondsSpeaker 150: withdrawn i'm not sure which language was used but um that that was the last conversations that i had

109. 0:21:20 — open the recording at 21 minutes 20 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): sir. Thank you. I Jeff, I apologize. I also had that same information. I thought it was tabled as well, so I don't I don't if we are going to vote on this tonight, I for one need at least a minute here to read over this just a little bit more because I thought it was

110. 0:21:37 — open the recording at 21 minutes 37 secondsSpeaker 158: tabled because there were some issues. Yeah, I'm not aware of any issues. You know, again, obviously the county attorney is not concerned about it because he's recommended that we bring it to the commissioners as well and they'll amend the ordinance so you know he reviewed this document so you know I can't I can't speak for so the

111. 0:22:01 — open the recording at 22 minutes 1 secondJeff Fox (staff): county attorney other than we're required by the trial court technologies to establish an ordinance bureau so that if we cite somebody for the two

112. 0:22:11 — open the recording at 22 minutes 11 secondsJeff Fox (staff): applicable ordinances that they are simply cited to the sheriff's office as opposed to first of all we can't cite them to the sheriff's office so we have no choice but to then either cite them under indiana statute and we can't cite them under the county ordinance or the only applicable court which mr roberts is here today he could speak to this he was part of this conversation i would assume has to be to the court of authority which is a decision by the prosecutor's office so therefore then where do we write an ordinance that says

113. 0:22:44 — open the recording at 22 minutes 44 secondsJeff Fox (staff): the ordinance shall the fine shall be paid to the sheriff's office and deposited into the two applicable funds which are non reverting funds that are established by council rule and therefore the ordinances have already specified that in regards to mr. Gentry I understand your your point but everything in this ordinance has already been established we already have clerks at the sheriff's office who receive money under these ordinances today we already have deputy sheriffs who are ordinance officers all police officers that are you know sworn in by the sheriff

114. 0:23:24 — open the recording at 23 minutes 24 secondsJeff Fox (staff): our deputy sheriffs and so we are we are entrusted to enforce counting ordinances so you know I don't think anything in here and I respect your your concerns but I can't find anything in here that would be you know alarming and again I have to go by what I'm being told by the county attorney and mr. Modison and obviously he's the prosecutor mr. Roberts may can may be able to share something concerning this but we are simply trying to be able to follow the county ordinance which is be able to issue a citation to someone who has

115. 0:24:03 — open the recording at 24 minutes 3 secondsJeff Fox (staff): violated the two ordinances that say you shall pay your fines to the sheriff's office to a non reverting fund the other ordinances aren't there is no language there that does that so therefore if we cite somebody for another county ordinance we have to cite those to the applicable court of jurisdiction and I believe again I will defer to the prosecutor which I believe in this case is division for court so all we're trying to do is follow the ordinances that were established by the commissioners that simply say if you're

116. 0:24:38 — open the recording at 24 minutes 38 secondsJeff Fox (staff): citing somebody for animal control it's cited to the sheriff's office and you pay your fine and then if you're cited under the false alarm ordinance which is too many alarms if you're cited for those violations you bring those those to the sheriff's office you pay your fine to the sheriff's office it's deposited into the non reverting account we have been doing this now since those

117. 0:25:04 — open the recording at 25 minutes 4 secondsJeff Fox (staff): ordinances were put in place and so but those always required us to send a letter to these folks and say hey you you know you violated this ordinance and so we simply don't want to continue to do that it makes no sense that we continue to do that you know we and the prosecutor and the courts want us to remain electronic for a lot of good reasons accountability issues and all those kind of things and so just randomly sending letters to people as opposed to following that plus if somebody wants a dispute you know there's a

118. 0:25:46 — open the recording at 25 minutes 46 secondsJeff Fox (staff): there's a legal standard and process for people who want to dispute a traffic ticket if you will as an example well this would be no other if I issued a

119. 0:25:55 — open the recording at 25 minutes 55 secondsJeff Fox (staff): citation for an animal control violation and you wanted to dispute that then there's a there's a process that started there that the prosecutor's office then

120. 0:26:04 — open the recording at 26 minutes 4 secondsJeff Fox (staff): manages that and defers that if I send you a letter that says oh by the way you know your animals were running at large and we want you to come in and pay a fine well how what is the applicable management of that letter and so we're just trying to come into compliance with how the the state statutes and the county ordinances and and how we do business every day so I I don't have any other explanation I mean I can give you an example we had an ordinance violation of dogs running at large that killed another animal, and we had to cite it into Division IV court

121. 0:26:45 — open the recording at 26 minutes 45 secondsJeff Fox (staff): because we couldn't cite it to the sheriff's office for them to pay their fines. I'm sure that's perfectly fine, and I'm sure the prosecutor's office can address that, but I don't know if the judge is going to be real happy that he's busy managing animal complaints instead of dealing with criminal matters. So, I mean, I respect that,

122. 0:27:05 — open the recording at 27 minutes 5 secondsSpeaker 162: but we're just trying to streamline and make us more efficient and do what we need to do. The state of Indiana just told us this was what had to be done.

123. 0:27:14 — open the recording at 27 minutes 14 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Mr. Fox, under 33, Indiana Code 33-36-3-1 and 33-36-2-1,

124. 0:27:23 — open the recording at 27 minutes 23 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): my concern is that the first layer of this is an ordinance clerk. The ordinance clerk is established. In most jurisdictions, that is the county clerk, or in a city jurisdiction, that is typically the clerk treasurer. And the process is, as you talked about appeals, it's clearly outlined in Indiana law that the appeal would occur to the ordinance clerk, and then the ordinance clerk, if it's not resolved, would then forward it on to the courts. So I think we're on the same page. we want to do this right and we want to get this all squared away.

125. 0:28:07 — open the recording at 28 minutes 7 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): I'm just not sure that this is the fix that gets you to where you want to go. Maybe ultimately it does, but I'm afraid that if we pass this, it would be contrary to Indiana law, and I'm not in the business of wanting to pass county ordinances that don't necessarily comply. So the best case scenario would be is I'm glad to make a motion. I'm not making that motion right now, Mr. President, but I'd be glad to make a motion to table it to allow the lawyers to once again discuss this

126. 0:28:41 — open the recording at 28 minutes 41 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): as I thought that they were supposed to be doing in the last week.

127. 0:28:46 — open the recording at 28 minutes 46 secondsSpeaker 166: Well, there is, in light of that, you know,

128. 0:28:50 — open the recording at 28 minutes 50 secondsJeff Fox (staff): there is an immunity and liability section of this ordinance that basically says if you guys do something, you violate statute, we just don't do it. I mean, it's pretty straightforward, right? So, you know, there's an immunity and liability section that says nothing in this ordinance shall be construed to create a private right or an action against Vigo County, the sheriff's office, or any employee with the scope of their official duties, and that we shall retain immunities and protections under statute. So, I mean, I understand that, and I respect that, and it specifically addresses Indiana

129. 0:29:25 — open the recording at 29 minutes 25 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): code 3336 in this ordinance so you know you have a problem with us tabling this until we have the lawyers actually agree to the process forward i i talked to mr modisette he did act as if it was possible that both entities would pass the ordinance considering the original ordinances with commissioners and he is actually the council for the commissioners as well that seems the proper

130. 0:29:53 — open the recording at 29 minutes 53 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): place for it to start before you're asking us to jump in the middle of this. This ordinance also states that if we pass this ordinance, it would trump and overrule any previous ordinance. And the other thing is the fact that you just mentioned that, well, if we pass it and it's not right, then, you know, why would we do that?

131. 0:30:17 — open the recording at 30 minutes 17 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Why wouldn't we just table this until next month and, again, the attorneys can hash it out and we can make sure that we're legally on board I

132. 0:30:26 — open the recording at 30 minutes 26 secondsJeff Fox (staff): have no issue with whatever this council wants to do you're an elected official you folks can determine the validity of what you're asked to do I have no issue with that obviously the longer this goes the more issues it just creates for us trying to do our job that's all we're trying to accomplish here I have I I appreciate that. When the county attorney hands me this document and says this should be approved, I have no legal basis to argue with Mr. Modisett or anyone and say, well, the language is not appropriate. And I appreciate, and maybe you have more understanding

133. 0:31:05 — open the recording at 31 minutes 5 secondsSpeaker 171: of that. Whatever this body wants to do is perfectly fine.

134. 0:31:10 — open the recording at 31 minutes 10 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Mr. Modisett relayed to me that the Sheriff's Department

135. 0:31:14 — open the recording at 31 minutes 14 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): actually drafted this ordinance and gave it to him to look at and review is that is that correct

136. 0:31:22 — open the recording at 31 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 166: yes so you guys drafted this gave it to him it came from the state of indiana so the trial this

137. 0:31:29 — open the recording at 31 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 150: this ordinance is verbatim from from the state court technologies provided a sample and we

138. 0:31:36 — open the recording at 31 minutes 36 secondsSpeaker 166: provided it to the county attorney as we do many other things and asked him to review it

139. 0:31:41 — open the recording at 31 minutes 41 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): and he he signed off on it is there is there what what would be the problem with tabling this to next month to make sure that we get it right you have any issues with that no other than you know

140. 0:31:54 — open the recording at 31 minutes 54 secondsJeff Fox (staff): we're just going to be handcuffed for the next 30 days again so i mean i i'm fine with it it doesn't matter to me mr gentry it really doesn't i'm just trying to do the work that we're trying to do i'm I'm just trying to keep our department moving along. This got delayed to my lap because it's an information technology issue. So, you know, I'm trying to maintain our computer system. I'm trying to, you know, turn on our new website and do all those other things that Mr. Swann did. I'm fine with it.

141. 0:32:23 — open the recording at 32 minutes 23 secondsJeff Fox (staff): If that's the discussion, I just want somebody to make a decision so that we can move on about our day.

142. 0:32:31 — open the recording at 32 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 171: And if the council doesn't believe this is appropriate, I'm fine with that.

143. 0:32:35 — open the recording at 32 minutes 35 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Well, I don't want to say no to it. I just want to make sure that all the lawyers are on the same page. So, Mr. President, I'd like to make a motion to table.

144. 0:32:42 — open the recording at 32 minutes 42 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Okay, motion by Councilman Gentry.

145. 0:32:50 — open the recording at 32 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 186: Do we have a second?

146. 0:32:51 — open the recording at 32 minutes 51 secondsSpeaker 187 (councillor): I have some discussion.

147. 0:32:53 — open the recording at 32 minutes 53 secondsSpeaker 186: Okay, further discussion?

148. 0:32:54 — open the recording at 32 minutes 54 secondsSpeaker 187 (councillor): Yes, please. The reverting fund, non-reverting fund, who has control of that?

149. 0:33:02 — open the recording at 33 minutes 2 secondsSpeaker 190: I understand.

150. 0:33:05 — open the recording at 33 minutes 5 secondsSpeaker 191: And who does it go to?

151. 0:33:11 — open the recording at 33 minutes 11 secondsJeff Fox (staff): I know that we receive the applicable Radler paid to our office and then it's transferred to the auditor. And then I believe that it's like with any other fund, if it's not appropriated in the budget a request for additional appropriation has to come through. We follow that same guidance and so I would defer to the auditor on the formal process.

152. 0:33:34 — open the recording at 33 minutes 34 secondsSpeaker 171: But those two funds are the only two funds by ordinance that we collect revenue for.

153. 0:33:40 — open the recording at 33 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 187 (councillor): And I think, okay, Mr. Fox, I think what we question is why is the council making an ordinance when you've already got an ordinance and that could be changed?

154. 0:33:51 — open the recording at 33 minutes 51 secondsSpeaker 195: Yeah, I can't answer that.

155. 0:33:54 — open the recording at 33 minutes 54 secondsSpeaker 187 (councillor): You understand you have the ordinance, right?

156. 0:33:58 — open the recording at 33 minutes 58 secondsSpeaker 198: I don't understand why the council would be involved in an ordinance. I think the attorney, Mr. Modest, just advised us both to do it because it deals with money.

157. 0:34:09 — open the recording at 34 minutes 9 secondsJeff Fox (staff): There's obviously going to be money taken from the Sheriff's Department if there's a citation issued and put into their non-reverting fund. Therefore, you folks deal with money. Of course, we can amend or change any ordinance at any time, but since there's money exchanged, the issue we have with Mr. Don Aldridge, the new animal control officer, is we have issues writing citations, in collecting those citations because currently if we issue a citation they come to the commissioner's office on a Friday and we have a discussion with

158. 0:34:40 — open the recording at 34 minutes 40 secondsJeff Fox (staff): what they did wrong but we have no legal authority to cite them or collect those fees and penalize them for animal control issues so I believe that's why we're here asking for both bodies to approve the ordinance we only address

159. 0:34:55 — open the recording at 34 minutes 55 secondsSpeaker 169: those two issues. Animal control and alarms.

160. 0:35:00 — open the recording at 35 minutesJeff Fox (staff): In code enforcement we keep in-house here through building inspection area planning and they can offer their citations there.

161. 0:35:08 — open the recording at 35 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 171: I would offer you this just that occurred last week. I don't know if the commissioner has been

162. 0:35:11 — open the recording at 35 minutes 11 secondsJeff Fox (staff): applied. As you were aware the state of Indiana contacted us last week and and does not allow their ordinance folks to write citations any longer under the state system because they do not meet the statutory requirements so therefore they have to manage the system differently and so same kind of thing here they're not going to let us do it because they won't let them do it and so they said you either have to have a bureau or not and then they said that county building inspection did not meet the statutory requirements to use the

163. 0:35:45 — open the recording at 35 minutes 45 secondsJeff Fox (staff): state's electronic citation and warning system and they removed removed those folks and I had to remove them because they were under our purview and they removed their ordinance bureau as well so I know they're serious about their

164. 0:35:59 — open the recording at 35 minutes 59 secondsJeff Fox (staff): business so but if the commissioners if the commissioners are willing to do it and mr. modest it's willing to do it and you that council would prefer they to just be handled at their office we're fine with that we just we're just trying to follow what you know mr. modest that said go here and if you guys are comfortable with saying hey the commissioners and if the commissioners say we'll take it and we'll just go ahead and amend the ordinance and move on I mean trial court technologies doesn't care whose name is at the back

165. 0:36:29 — open the recording at 36 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 162: page right they just want an ordinance Bureau established so I can't I I'm happy either way so whatever you guys feel comfortable with

166. 0:36:40 — open the recording at 36 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 210: councilman Anderson did you anything further Yes, ma'am.

167. 0:36:45 — open the recording at 36 minutes 45 secondsBrenda Wilson (councillor): Okay. Simplify. Write it with crayon.

168. 0:36:49 — open the recording at 36 minutes 49 secondsBrenda Wilson (councillor): Are we just crossing T's and dotting I's and doing something that the state is requesting that you do, requiring that you do, and Mr. Modisette had looked over it and said this is who you should talk to about getting this done?

169. 0:37:03 — open the recording at 37 minutes 3 secondsSpeaker 194: Absolutely. Thank you very much. You're absolutely correct. That's all we're doing.

170. 0:37:07 — open the recording at 37 minutes 7 secondsSpeaker 51: And this makes no sense to me to table it. We should just get it done.

171. 0:37:12 — open the recording at 37 minutes 12 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Councilwoman Wilson, I just want to say that last week you weren't here at the Sunshine Meeting. Our council stated that it should be done by the commissioners. We typically follow our legal council's advice. There was conversations to be had. Obviously, our council's not here tonight, but that's on the record from the Sunshine Meeting. So I just want to make sure that you are aware of that. It's not as simple as crossing the T's and dotting the I's. We're trying to do what our council is telling us to do.

172. 0:37:48 — open the recording at 37 minutes 48 secondsBrenda Wilson (councillor): I have faith in our prosecutor, and the prosecutor told him to take it to us. I will not vote for it to table it.

173. 0:37:56 — open the recording at 37 minutes 56 secondsSpeaker 223: Okay.

174. 0:38:01 — open the recording at 38 minutes 1 secondSpeaker 22 (chair): Okay. All right. We have a motion. Do we have a second?

175. 0:38:07 — open the recording at 38 minutes 7 seconds State the motion.

176. 0:38:08 — open the recording at 38 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 30 (chair): currently the motion is to table it I believe until the next meeting just

177. 0:38:11 — open the recording at 38 minutes 11 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): table to next month so that we can make sure that this is legally appropriate that's all I'm asking for I'm not saying no to it I just want to make sure that we are on the same page our council at the sunshine meeting said it needed to go to the commissioners I'm just wanting to make sure that we do it right okay

178. 0:38:29 — open the recording at 38 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): so your motion is the current motion on the table is to motion or to table it tell September meeting no second okay we've got a count our motion by Councilwoman Wilson to approve second by Councilwoman wager all right any

179. 0:38:55 — open the recording at 38 minutes 55 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): discussion I think it's ill-advised mr. president to move proceed when we have our own legal counsel saying that it needs to go to the commissioners commissioners said they'd take it up I'm not really sure why we're doing this against our own counsel's advice thank you councilman Gentry any other

180. 0:39:17 — open the recording at 39 minutes 17 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): discussion all right roll call please David Thompson Brad Anderson Brenda

181. 0:39:24 — open the recording at 39 minutes 24 secondsSpeaker 12 (clerk): Wilson Nancy also Randy Gentry no Vicki Wager Steve Ellis hi

182. 0:39:32 — open the recording at 39 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 125 (chair): All right. Thank you, counsel. I appreciate your time. Thank you. I really do. Moving on to 2026-4, Building Security Officer, Clothing Allowance, page 15.

183. 0:39:42 — open the recording at 39 minutes 42 secondsSpeaker 249: Council President, this was an accident we left off the budget last year. Yes, sir.

184. 0:40:06 — open the recording at 40 minutes 6 secondsSpeaker 250: And we just need to correct that.

185. 0:40:08 — open the recording at 40 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Any discussion, questions? All right, we bet we're gonna move a little quicker before the lights go out Motion I was that councilman Wilson motion to approve by councilwoman Wilson Second by councilwoman also any discussion All right, once again, we are voting on

186. 0:40:32 — open the recording at 40 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): 2026-4 building security officer clothing allowance roll call, please

187. 0:40:37 — open the recording at 40 minutes 37 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): David Thompson Brad Anderson

188. 0:40:39 — open the recording at 40 minutes 39 secondsSpeaker 12 (clerk): Brenda Wilson Nancy Alsop Aye Randy Gentry Aye Vicki Wager Aye Steve Ellis

189. 0:40:45 — open the recording at 40 minutes 45 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): Aye Alright moving on additional appropriation 2026-35 building security officer clothing allowance page 20

190. 0:40:52 — open the recording at 40 minutes 52 secondsSpeaker 30 (chair): Discussion? Motions?

191. 0:40:58 — open the recording at 40 minutes 58 secondsSpeaker 258: Moved or approved

192. 0:40:59 — open the recording at 40 minutes 59 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): That was by Councilwoman Wilson

193. 0:41:01 — open the recording at 41 minutes 1 secondSpeaker 258: Second

194. 0:41:02 — open the recording at 41 minutes 2 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Seconded by Councilwoman Wager

195. 0:41:04 — open the recording at 41 minutes 4 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): Any discussion? This is to approve 2026-35, Building Security Officer Clothing Allowance.

196. 0:41:12 — open the recording at 41 minutes 12 secondsSpeaker 260: Roll call, please.

197. 0:41:13 — open the recording at 41 minutes 13 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): David Thompson. Brad Anderson.

198. 0:41:15 — open the recording at 41 minutes 15 secondsSpeaker 12 (clerk): Aye. Brenda Wilson. Aye. Nancy Alsup. Aye. Randy Gendry. Aye. Vicki Wager. Aye. Steve Ellis.

199. 0:41:20 — open the recording at 41 minutes 20 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): Aye. Moving on to 2026-36, Commissioners, Susie's Place, page 21.

200. 0:41:29 — open the recording at 41 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Any discussion or questions? Any motions?

201. 0:41:34 — open the recording at 41 minutes 34 secondsSpeaker 263: Motion approved. Second.

202. 0:41:36 — open the recording at 41 minutes 36 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): All right. Who's the motion first? Motion by Councilwoman Wilson, seconded by Councilwoman Wager. Any discussion?

203. 0:41:46 — open the recording at 41 minutes 46 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Yes, sir. Mr. President. Yes, sir. I just want to say that my vote's going to reflect my position that we need to utilize taxpayers' money towards our own services and that branching out and continuing to fund nonprofits when we have our own fiscal issues in-house seems a bit overboard. I would also state that this is a small amount of money, and obviously we understand it's a bridge to keep the operation open, but I still have grave concerns over continuing to use taxpayers' money towards nonprofits.

204. 0:42:29 — open the recording at 42 minutes 29 secondsSpeaker 267: Thank you, sir.

205. 0:42:31 — open the recording at 42 minutes 31 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): any other further discussion all right once again we are voting on

206. 0:42:40 — open the recording at 42 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): 2026-36 commissioner susie's place request roll call please

207. 0:42:44 — open the recording at 42 minutes 44 secondsSpeaker 12 (clerk): david thompson brad anderson hi brenda wilson nancy alsop randy gendry

208. 0:42:50 — open the recording at 42 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): no vicky wager steve ellis hi moving on to 2026-38 lost creek fire prevention protection protection I'm sorry protection district this is for the pump truck repairs purchase of fire PPE washer and dryer page 22 any questions or discussions any motions motion motion by Councilwoman wager seconded by Councilman Anderson any discussion roll call please David

209. 0:43:20 — open the recording at 43 minutes 20 secondsSpeaker 12 (clerk): Thompson Brad Anderson hi Brenda Wilson Nancy also Randy Gentry

210. 0:43:25 — open the recording at 43 minutes 25 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): thank you wager hi once again that was on 2026-38 pass 6-0 additional appropriation 2026-39 community Corrections supplement page 23 any discussion or questions motion by councilwoman Wilson seconded by councilwoman wager discussions or questions mr. president yes sir we've

211. 0:43:57 — open the recording at 43 minutes 57 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): gone over this several times three of the council members have had a meeting with the executive team at community Corrections and we have a request for 200,000 and as I told the director Watson last week I felt as if the 200,000 is not necessarily the problem. It's addressing the issues moving forward. There's been a series of issues that came up at that previous meeting at the Community Corrections. And one of the things that I want Director Watson to promise that he's going to work on is, one,

212. 0:44:39 — open the recording at 44 minutes 39 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): is that it's the management decisions and the Executive Board of Community Corrections that are making the decisions as to how to spend this money. Previous year, I believe if my numbers are correct, $180,000 was spent for mental health. A process occurred whereby it was approved for them to bring in four employees. And with benefits and salary, we increased to quite a substantial number in excess of 600,000 to provide essentially the same amount of services. And Director Watson last week at the Sunshine meeting promised as well as the executive team

213. 0:45:29 — open the recording at 45 minutes 29 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): of the community corrections that they understand that the problem moving forward in an environment of reduced revenue, that means the state is gonna provide less money to community corrections, that um that there are going to have to be some tough decisions made and i encourage community corrections to fill every bed as possible i believe when we had the meeting a few weeks ago they had 50 beds in the residential treatments program open i'm sure that that's probably gone down since then but we've got to do a much better job of managing that money

214. 0:46:02 — open the recording at 46 minutes 2 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): and making sure that we're getting the maximum bang for our dollar so while the 200 000 is not a problem moving forward there's definitely got to be a situation where people are addressing how they're going to move forward and be able to keep the doors open and be able to provide the services so thank you mr. president thank

215. 0:46:22 — open the recording at 46 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 121: you councilman Gentry any further questions or comments okay yes ma'am I

216. 0:46:27 — open the recording at 46 minutes 27 secondsBrenda Wilson (councillor): can't be quiet it's not our place to chastise or reprimand a director who has done an excellent job in running his department I apologize on behalf of the

217. 0:46:40 — open the recording at 46 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): council to mr. Watson thank you miss councilwoman Wilson any further questions or comments any motions oh I'm sorry that's right I had forgotten there is a motion on the table and seconded to approve this once again on 2026-39 community Corrections roll call please David Thompson Brad Anderson

218. 0:47:14 — open the recording at 47 minutes 14 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): Brenda Wilson Nancy also Randy Gentry aye Vicki Wager

219. 0:47:19 — open the recording at 47 minutes 19 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Steve Ellis aye motion passes 6-0 moving on 2026-40 veterans insurance any questions or comments motion to approve motion to approve by Councilman Gentry second by Councilman wager any comments or questions all right once again we are

220. 0:47:40 — open the recording at 47 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): voting on 2026-40 veterans insurance roll call please David Thompson Brad

221. 0:47:48 — open the recording at 47 minutes 48 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): Anderson Brenda Wilson Nancy also Randy Gentry

222. 0:47:52 — open the recording at 47 minutes 52 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): aye Vicki Wager aye Steve Ellis aye motion passes 6-0 thank you 20 26-41

223. 0:47:59 — open the recording at 47 minutes 59 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): prosecutor return of fugitives page 25

224. 0:48:08 — open the recording at 48 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 234: okay any questions or comments council motion to approve motion to approve by

225. 0:48:13 — open the recording at 48 minutes 13 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): councilman Gentry second by councilwoman Wager any questions or comments

226. 0:48:22 — open the recording at 48 minutes 22 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): This is once again a vote on 2026-41. Roll call please.

227. 0:48:27 — open the recording at 48 minutes 27 secondsSpeaker 25 (clerk): David Thompson. Brad Anderson. Aye. Brenda Wilson. Aye. Nancy Alsop. Aye. Randy Gentry. Aye. Vicki Wager. Aye. Steve Evels. Aye. Motion passes 6-0. That's a good speech. Thank you.

228. 0:48:40 — open the recording at 48 minutes 40 secondsSpeaker 128: 2026-42. Come back. Council President, I'm pretty confident this one's been...

229. 0:48:46 — open the recording at 48 minutes 46 secondsSpeaker 125 (chair): Tabled. All right. This one has been withdrawn for the moment.

230. 0:48:50 — open the recording at 48 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 299: I'm sorry table table my apologies motion to table motion to table motion by

231. 0:49:02 — open the recording at 49 minutes 2 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): Councilman Gentry to table second second by Councilman Anderson any discussion we can yes I don't think so I think this is just for the council yeah sorry about that this was 2026-42 there's a motion to table seconded by Councilman

232. 0:49:26 — open the recording at 49 minutes 26 secondsSpeaker 307: Anderson I believe that was roll call please I think a generic motion to table just leaves it open-ended my request that I sent out to everyone was that it

233. 0:49:39 — open the recording at 49 minutes 39 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): be tabled until next month so I will withdraw my motion to table and in

234. 0:49:47 — open the recording at 49 minutes 47 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): a new motion to table till next month all right so the motion is to table until next month by councilman gentry seconded by councilman wager any discussion by council all right once again this is

235. 0:50:01 — open the recording at 50 minutes 1 secondSpeaker 10 (clerk): on 2026-42 roll call please david thompson brad anderson brenda wilson nancy also randy jendry

236. 0:50:08 — open the recording at 50 minutes 8 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): aye Vicki Wager aye Steve Ellis aye motion passes 6-0 2026-43 auditor juvenile medical page 27

237. 0:50:27 — open the recording at 50 minutes 27 secondsSpeaker 30 (chair): all right first off discussion or questions by council we got a motion to

238. 0:50:34 — open the recording at 50 minutes 34 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): approved by Councilwoman Wager second by Councilwoman Wilson once again any

239. 0:50:40 — open the recording at 50 minutes 40 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): questions comments yes sir mr. president I believe this was just an error in last year's budget yes thank you all right anything further once again this is on

240. 0:50:53 — open the recording at 50 minutes 53 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): 2026 dash 43 auditor juvenile medical roll call please David Thompson Brad

241. 0:51:01 — open the recording at 51 minutes 1 secondSpeaker 10 (clerk): Anderson Brenda Wilson Nancy also Randy Gentry

242. 0:51:05 — open the recording at 51 minutes 5 secondsSpeaker 121: Vicki Wager and Steve Ellis I motion passes 6-0 2026-44 homes for children

243. 0:51:11 — open the recording at 51 minutes 11 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): non reverting funds request this is on page 28 any questions or discussion by council motion to approve by councilwoman Wager seconded by councilwoman I'm sorry councilman Wilson made the motion seconded by councilwoman Wager questions or comments by council once you're voting on 2020 I'm sorry it's

244. 0:51:34 — open the recording at 51 minutes 34 secondsSpeaker 322: all of them or just one this is it's grouped together this is a 2026-44

245. 0:51:49 — open the recording at 51 minutes 49 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): homes for children we are voting on roll call please no discussion yes sir

246. 0:51:54 — open the recording at 51 minutes 54 secondsRandy Gentry (councillor): Director Latimuk, last week Commissioner Morse gave us an update on your residency numbers. One of the things I was just curious is how many of those children are from Vigo County compared to outside the county? Do you have those current numbers?

247. 0:52:14 — open the recording at 52 minutes 14 seconds I don't.

248. 0:52:15 — open the recording at 52 minutes 15 secondsSpeaker 172: You don't know how many are from Vigo County?

249. 0:52:17 — open the recording at 52 minutes 17 secondsDirector Latimuk (staff): No.

250. 0:52:17 — open the recording at 52 minutes 17 secondsSpeaker 331: 75% of them probably.

251. 0:52:26 — open the recording at 52 minutes 26 secondsSpeaker 172: Are from Vigo County? Yes. Thank you, sir.

252. 0:52:30 — open the recording at 52 minutes 30 secondsSpeaker 333: You know, when we had to open a house the other day when we were down there

253. 0:52:33 — open the recording at 52 minutes 33 secondsSpeaker 338: and I was asking some of the people working there and what have you, and I didn't do a nose count, but they said many of them were from Vigo County at this point in time.

254. 0:52:47 — open the recording at 52 minutes 47 secondsSpeaker 339: thank you all right any further discussion from uh on homes for children from council

255. 0:52:54 — open the recording at 52 minutes 54 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): okay we have a motion in a second this is on 2026-44 roll call please david thompson

256. 0:53:00 — open the recording at 53 minutesSpeaker 10 (clerk): brad anderson brenda wilson nancy also randy gentry

257. 0:53:07 — open the recording at 53 minutes 7 secondsSpeaker 341: aye vicki wager steve ellis aye motion passes six zero moving on 2020s i do have discussion yes

258. 0:53:14 — open the recording at 53 minutes 14 secondsSpeaker 187 (councillor): I have to discuss. Sure. Your grant you got received? Yes. Does that go into the non-reverting or the general fund?

259. 0:53:22 — open the recording at 53 minutes 22 secondsDirector Latimuk (staff): It goes in neither. It's held in a separate account. Okay. That's called Lilly Endowment Grant. Yeah. It can be only spent for the planning of what the next grant would give us. Okay. So it's a completely separate issue. Okay. except the planning of enhancing residential living for children in Indiana. Yeah, okay.

260. 0:53:46 — open the recording at 53 minutes 46 secondsSpeaker 348: Well, thank you for working on that. Thank you.

261. 0:53:49 — open the recording at 53 minutes 49 secondsSpeaker 14: Thank you, sir.

262. 0:53:50 — open the recording at 53 minutes 50 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): All right, moving on. 2026-45 recorders record perpetuation insurance. This is page 30. Discussion? Yes, sir.

263. 0:53:59 — open the recording at 53 minutes 59 secondsSpeaker 183 (councillor): Mr. President, I believe this is just a correction from last year's budget. A motion to approve?

264. 0:54:03 — open the recording at 54 minutes 3 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): Second. Motion to approve by Councilman Gentry, seconded by Councilman Wager. Any questions or discussion? All right. This is 2026-45. Roll call, please.

265. 0:54:13 — open the recording at 54 minutes 13 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): David Thompson. Brad Anderson. Aye. Brenda Wilson. Aye. Nancy Alsop. Aye. Randy Gendry. Aye. Vicki Wager. Aye.

266. 0:54:21 — open the recording at 54 minutes 21 secondsSpeaker 12 (clerk): And Steve Ellis.

267. 0:54:21 — open the recording at 54 minutes 21 secondsSpeaker 6 (chair): Aye. Motion passes 6-0. Moving on. Excuse me. 2026-46. Juvenile Justice Center non-reverting insurance. Page 31.

268. 0:54:32 — open the recording at 54 minutes 32 secondsSpeaker 183 (councillor): Mr. President. Yes, sir. I believe this is a correction of last year's budget. Is that correct, auditor?

269. 0:54:37 — open the recording at 54 minutes 37 secondsSpeaker 358: they actually changed positions and the person that moved into that position took a higher insurance like a child employee child and the person that was in there was only budgeted for a employee thank you mr. president motion to approve motion to approve by councilman

270. 0:55:00 — open the recording at 55 minutesSpeaker 22 (chair): gentry seconded by councilwoman wager once again this is on 2026-46 roll call a lot of

271. 0:55:06 — open the recording at 55 minutes 6 secondsSpeaker 10 (clerk): questions or discussion roll call please David Thompson Brian Anderson Brenda Wilson Nancy also hi Randy Gentry hi Vicki wager Steve Ellis hi motion passes

272. 0:55:17 — open the recording at 55 minutes 17 secondsSpeaker 22 (chair): six zero honorary resolutions there are none resolutions related to fiscal policies of the council sorry I thought somebody said something okay there are none appointments there are none adjournment motion councilman wager to adjourn second by councilman Anderson

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